Big Brother 14 finally comes to a end. It was a great season with some of the better Players we’ve seen in a while. Ian Terry finally defeats the DAn Gheesling and the fabled Dan “Mist” is gone. The Vote was a shocking 6-1 with Danielle being the only vote for Dan. The image above was taken from the superpass interviews where Danielle was told Dan said said to Shane right before Shane left that Danielle was playing him from the beginning. It’s sad to say that for the most part these interviews are filled with fluff and really do not get to some core questions. We’ll need to wait for Evel Dick’s interviews for that.
Here’s a couple questions I have for you all (I’ll add my answers below in the comments)
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
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CBS Interviews with Jeff (Canada Friendly)
JoJo Doll
Kara
Ashley Iocco
Britney Haynes
Joe the power house
Jodi the real favorite
Dan Gheesling
Danielle Murphree
Shane being stalked Meanie
Carrot Top
Ian BB14 winner Terry
Janelle
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Global TV Canada
Janelle
JoJo Doll
Kara monaco And Jodi rollins
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Shane Meany
Wil Heuser
Britney Haynes
Dan the Mist
Carrot Boy
Ashley Iocco
Danielle Murphree
Ian BB14 Winner Terry
Big BRother 14 Winner Ian Terry
America’s Fvorite Frank the Carrot top Eudy
Big Brother 14 Runner up Dan Gheesling
Global TV LInk
CBS Interviews Done By Jeff Schroeder(US only, if you are Canadian you will need to use a VPN or wait until someone posts them onto youtube. I’m Canadian I use a service called strong VPN)
Jeff and Janelle
Jeff and Dan
Jeff and Wil
Jeff and Mike Boogie Malin
Jeff and Ian Terry
Jeff and Danielle
Jeff and Shane
Jeff and a Mo** f*** powerhouse
Jeff and Britney
After the Finale the final 3 house guests: Ian, Dan, and Danielle were interviewed by The Talk
– Julie Chen got Ian to explain his strategy that he had written on a piece of paper prior to entering the house, which the producers took from him.
Jeff Schroeder sits down with Dan Gheesling, to take your questions.
https://youtu.be/KKLQDSoEr5A
Jeff Schroeder talks with Danielle:
https://youtu.be/r7JNUnIGAew
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever? No, never did. Dr. Will still has him beat.
Did Dan throw the final HOH? I don’t think he intended to. He legitimately got the Britney question wrong and Ian got everything else right so it didn’t matter.
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle? Probably.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock? An 8.
Ian’s finale speech 1-10 A 10. He really knocked it out of the park with his speech.
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best) An 8. It was really transparent and the jury knew he was trying to suck up and it didn’t work.
I still think Dan is the best ever and I am not a fan of his. He has played twice and has a win and a second place finish. Do you think anyone else could of talked their way out of the Frank situation?Would anyone else have the balls to do the Shane destruction? I don’t like him but he is the best ever in my opinion.
Have you watched BB2? BB7? Will talked himself out of much worse, and against more intelligent, less gullible people.
Did you see Will get bounced from All Stars? Will is good but Dan is better in my opinion.
No one cares.
From Danielle’s expression it looks like the interviewer just told her uneaten cookies were left in the BB house.
Nah, she was just told by Spicy that Dan whispered to Shane as he was evicted, “she’s been playing you this entire time!” Oh, Dani… She has to be the most played houseguest in BB history!
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
Not the best ever, but up there. I’d consider him one of the best.
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
I think he did. There’s no way some of the answers he said he could’ve even remotely believed were right. I don’t know…it seems like he did. On the lives feed at some point didn’t he mention throwing it?
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
I don’t know. I think it depends on how bitter the jury would be towards him VS how well he played the Game. I fully believe the fact Ian revealed that he gave him his Grandfather’s cross sealed the deal for him not winning. If that hadn’t been revealed and he was up against Danielle he might have had a chance because I’m not sure if they would have voted for her to win.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
Seven point five. He was a newbie yes, but he didn’t get to where he was on his own.
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
8. It was really compelling. I was rooting for Dan and after Ian’s speech I thought he should win.
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
1. What was that? It wasn’t even a speech it was a weird sort of rambling. Reminded me of Clint Eastwood talking to the empty chair. I didn’t even understand what he was saying and it was far too long. He sounded too desperate. Dan should have sounded confident and calm and not desperate and pleading.
Megan,
I agree completely. I was rooting for Dan until I read about him practicing his speech and trying to suck up to each person. Like the others weren’t going to see through him saying that joe and Jen had strong social games?!!! Puhleeze!! But, I still was torn until he was rude while Ian was being asked his first question and then Ian won it for me with his speech! Yay Ian!
I’m still surprised that frank won America’s favorite though.
lol he even complmented braindead ashley. still think dan was the best overall – but ian had him beat in the finals
I didn’t vote for Frank – but I am not surprised he won. All over the internet I saw, ‘Vote for the worst…vote for Frank” You know how they do those crazy things. I think they did it for American Idol too…vote for the person that everyone hates the most….well, in this game, I had to agree that that would be Frank.
He did mention doing so and from what I read never practiced a speech against Danielle. I don’t think he would have thrown it that bad though, I think he missed one knew Ian was getting them all correct and so gave up. He thought he could beat Ian in the Jury.
Here’s a couple questions I have for you all (I’ll add my answers below in the comments)
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
A: One of the best players but I don’t think you can assign “best” player to anyone on given the nature of this game.
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
A: No
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
A: Yes
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
A: 10 (Ian was starting to get a little much near the end on the feeds but still happy to see him win)
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
A: 10 (it was real, he was nervous but he got the point across)
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
A: 5 (It was a Dan speech he tried top mist the jury and it didn’t work)
– I think you can just put them in tiers as there’s so many variables to consider. Dan is top tier
– No
– Yes. Danielle was seen as an extension of Dan and I think would’ve fared a lot worse in the jury speech
– 10
– 8. I think there was some really good points he could’ve used but didn’t, and he might have used the word destiny a little too much. But I think his genuine outrage at Dan’s final mist clinched it for him. I think he could’ve mentioned that he earned his way to the final 2 while Dan had to be carried there and the only reason why Dan was even in the seat beside him is because Ian was honoring his word.
– 4. He really missed the boat, his sucking up was just too transparent. I actually paused on the jury during his speech and the expressions said it all. Frank was laughing in disbelief, Shane looked outright disgusted, Danielle looked angry, Ashley wasn’t paying attention and Joe was looking off to the side obviously bored. I think he had an argument that coming into this house a second time everybody knew what kind of game he played before so he had to go to a more extreme game to even get to the end. He didn’t have the advantage of being an unknown.
I’m with Janelle on this one when it comes to what she said during the finale and in the CBS interview with Jeff. Then again, I’d have been thrilled with either Dan or Ian winning. It was, at least for me, one of the better seasons. I both fear and crave knowing what’s going to happen with Danielle in the next few days, also worry a little for how this win and this fame may affect Ian in the months to come, and honestly don’t give a flying shit about what happens to Frank, who I’m still scratching my head over, wondering how in hell he pulled off America’s Favorite.
Simon and Dawg, I won’t say that I’ll be back next year; I’ll be back to follow you this entire year, from Survivor to BB Canada, so there’s no need for me to say goodbye; only thank you for making this season just that much better for me, and talk to you later:)
Siding w/ her???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0D-7E35n1w&feature=plcp
Beat Player) Yup for BB10 & BB14
Throw HOH) Should have known the Jenn Question. Clearly confued about Brittney (Q).. Wonder if Brit used answer she knew QP leader would clue into.
Dan vs Dani) Hypocritical, back-stabbing, bitter, hate satan Dan jury would have held their double standards two faced holier-than-thou lying noses and given 500 K to Danielle out of spite. SO, NO.
Ian win) Ian played a decent game. Knew it was a game. So an 8. It was Danielle’s double final 2 deal with both Dan and Shane that gave Ian the chance to finals. Had Dan trusted her, Ian was toast.
Ian speech) Ian saw an opportunity to feed the jury what they wanted to hear. He played their righteous hero. So 9. But, iIsuspect, they also did have their minds made up.
Dan speech) He should have pointed out the jurys flaws and not their good points. Laugh about Ian’s attempt to sanitize his dirty game moves against Frank and Mike by calling him out at the end, etc. So a 3..He has nothing to apolize for. Wrong to agree with them that he was a bad guy…
Frank as A/C) The guy’s hair reminds of Curly on the three stoogies. Funny guy. But if they ask him back I’ll turn it off. Like the hammock rocking and Dani’s voice his ego…. well so much one can take.
Simon/Dawg….. Big Big 10….Thxs
Curly was bald. I think you meant Larry.
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
A: yes even if he didn’t win i think it was a bitter jury and being the only player to win 7-0 and get to the final 2 twice puts him at the top of my list
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
A: i don’t know it was a guessing game so only Dan really knows if he was trying to guess right or wrong but i doubt he did
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
A: NO it was a bitter jury he would have lost but he would have only lost 5-2 Brit and Ian would have given him their vote but everyone else was to bitter
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
A: 6 i would have preferred Dan win but Ian was my 2nd fave
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
A: 10 he did good pointing out why he deserved it more and he won
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
A:0 I’m a huge Dan fan but his speech was pathetic you can’t stab everyone in the back and be like oh sorry you guys were so much better than me i had to do it. He should have followed Ians lead and instead of kiss ass point out how he fooled them all and how he was strategically superior and deserves it more because he played them and Ian listened to him when he was HOH anyway. I think he knew he was playing for 2nd no matter what he did anyway.
Simon, I respect your opinion a ton. But I’m REALLY confused about two of your answers: Dan FLAT OUT told us on the feeds that if he won the final HOH, his conscience would FORCE him to take Danielle. DAN was absolutely certain he’d lose to Danielle in jury (more on that in a minute.) Dan had his eye on just one thing in BB14: FIRST place. On the feeds, I must’ve heard Dan do at least ten “practice speeches.” (Dan kept trying to shorten it, down to the supposed 90-second time limit.) All ten times, Dan referred to “him” (Ian) being next to Dan at the final. Someone else also just mentioned that Dan also NEVER practiced a single speech, saying either “her” or “Danielle”. Not once. Why? Didn’t that “tip us off”, that Dan knew he was definitely throwing Part 3? Dan knew a Dan vs. Danielle final wasn’t happening – so why should he prepare for it? So he didn’t. To me, EVERY one of Dan’s actions clearly point to him throwing HOH Part 3. Not to mention Danielle telling both Ian & Dan, “I won’t be voting for whoever cuts me.” To have a chance, Dan KNEW he needed Danielle’s vote. So Ian HAD to be the one to “cut” Danielle, not Dan. As to the questions Dan missed, the Britney answer was bizarre, but the Jenn question/answer was “slam dunk” easy, for any regular BB watcher, much less a fellow HG. Yet Dan, “Mr. I think BB game 24/7”, honestly got it wrong? Simon, Dan knows Jenn better than JENN knows herself!!!! So for you to say here that you think Dan DIDN’T throw HOH Part 3, I’m just not following your thinking here at all. Help!
Now I’ve been trumpeting Danielle’s “BB14 jury vote strength” for a while now. Most on here have strongly disagreed. These folks would say things like, “Danielle just rode Dan’s coattails all game long – she doesn’t deserve to win”, or “That b*tch is s a psycho!” That’s all true. Last night’s actual vote was ONE thing: a strong, loud, ANTI-DAN jury statement. I’m very happy for Ian, but ANYONE in the other chair vs. Dan last night would’ve won. Also, don’t forget “Worldwide Election Rule #1:” Whether folks are voting for the BB14 champ, the local mayor, or “Dawg Catcher!” 🙂 , voters almost always dislike both candidates. So they almost always end up voting for the person that they “hate less.” NOT who they like more. And that is exactly why Danielle would’ve KILLED Dan in jury. Danielle made less enemies. The jury hates Danielle FAR less than they hate Dan. THAT’S why Dan gets killed in jury – not for anything Danielle did or didn’t do. Joe was NEVER gonna vote for Dan – Dan was Joe’s least favorite HG, by a mile. (And Joe was the only HG immune to Dan’s mist, all season.) Joe was also very “pro-newbie” FTW! Frank was NEVER gonna vote for either Dan or Ian, if he had ANY other choice. So Frank’s vote goes to Danielle, simply “by default.” Shane wasn’t sure if Danielle was in on his “blindside eviction” by Dan. But Shane knew for sure that Dan WAS. So Shane clearly votes FOR Danielle over Dan. Britney and Danielle were both “nightly bath buddies” and close friends in the house all season. And Dan was the SOLE mastermind in Britney’s blindside eviction. So Brit is also a guaranteed Danielle vote. Danielle also eventually became very close with Jenn City. Jenn ONLY agreed to use her POV to save Dan, after Danielle repeatedly and forcefully told Jenn that to do so was what Danielle ALSO really wanted. Ian and Ashley’s vote? Doesn’t matter. To me, Danielle had five, 100% ROCK solid votes vs. Dan: Joe, Shane, Frank, Britney and Jenn. Simon, you said you thought Dan would’ve beaten Danielle. How do you see it differently than I just outlined? I tried – I can’t get there.
Finally, I think Ian gave the best speech he possibly could. It was far from perfect. I’d give it a 7. As it turned out, all Ian had to do was to not completely screw it up. Ian didn’t. I believe that Dan will both look back, and clearly admit to all who ask that his BB14 jury speech was the worst speech he’s ever given in his life. I’m sure as heck not gonna buy Dan’s “motivation book” now, based on that hideous performance! I honestly give Dan’s speech a 1. I can’t recall even a SINGLE thing that Dan either said or did that I thought helped him make his case for a jury vote. Going in, Dan must’ve known that he was in WAY deep trouble here. I don’t think Dan is at all used to being in that sort of “shaky” situation. Dan’s words came out sounding both insincere and manipulative. Dan’s “You guys are great players-I couldn’t win comps, so I had to get waist-deep in blood to survive” words came out sounding like total BS, and was a COMPLETE flop. Dan’s words/thoughts weren’t “on point” at all, as they normally are – Dan sounded completely “scatterbrained” up there, actually. Dan lost his poise. At times, Dan also came off as if he was “bullying” Ian, furthering Dan’s “negative jury spiral.” Dan knew it wasn’t going well. I sensed panic. He was “freaking out” inside. I could see it in his eyes. Dan even became “undisciplined” during Q&A, jumping in during a question asked to Ian, with Dan trying to give the jurors a “rebuttal,” when it was TOTALLY Dan’s time to stay quiet. To me, last night Dan looked 10,000 more nervous and unsure than I’d EVER seen him before. The jury was CLEARLY not impressed by him at all. Those who say that Dan losing 6-1 shows a “tainted, angry jury.” In part, they’re right. But Dan also did PLENTY himself last night, to contribute to his defeat. Ironically, from my seat, it 100% looked like Dan knew he was attending his own “BB14 funeral” Wednesday night. What comes around goes around? Maybe. And THIS time, the jurors then made certain to vote Dan out, scoop the dirt on top of him, and lower him six feet under! Great poll questions, Simon! I think the world of both you and Dawg! -Jim (PS-to me, Chelsea didn’t look too happy out there in the audience. Some interviews said she seemed VERY unhappy at how Dan did Danielle wrong at the end. Am I the only one that thinks Dan’s “conjugal reunion” might’ve ended up with Dan “sleeping on the couch” in the BB hotel last night?)
Good points Jim, Thanks for adding this its a very informative read.
I’m hearing through the rumor mill that Danielle has dodged all the non required POST BB activities.
Does anyone think her and Dan will ever speak again?
Simon, Dan told EW that he would have taken Ian over Danielle to the final two (EW interviewed the final three today). EW then told this message to Danielle who said that she does not want to talk to Dan, even when Dan said that he would be willing to “coach,” her in real life in order to help her decompress and help her forget about BB. The interview can be heard here: http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/09/20/insidetv-podcast-big-brother-finale-ian-dan-danielle/
Thanks BBKing.. looks like I was wrong with Dan.. haha misted.
The more I think about it the less potent I think Dan’s game was. Still think he’s “Top Tier” but maybe not as “Top” as I thought 3 weeks ago.
Many thanks for your kind words, Simon. It means a lot to me. As for Danielle ever talking to Dan again, right now, I’d say no. Why should she? Danielle will now forever view (along with the rest of the BB14 cast) EVERY single word that ever comes out of Dan’s mouth as counterfeit money – 100% worthless! (Now, Dan doesn’t know this yet, but being viewed by anyone you care about as a person who’s “no longer worth the paper you’re printed on” is a VERY VERY bad place for anyone to be.) And I don’t blame Danielle one bit for thinking it! Simon, my guess as to who will reach out to Danielle? Dan’s wife Chelsea. And it’s NOT gonna be as a “Dan Advocate.” At all. It’s gonna be because the two have something in common: they both care about Dan, and they are BOTH mad as a hornet at him right now. I know Chelsea really likes Danielle, because Danielle treated her husband with both loyalty and respect, every second that she was in that house with him. Simon, that’s my #1 concern for Danielle, going forward. She has just SO many personal issues she needs to work through with a professional. I would just HATE to see Danielle adopt the, “Why should I continue to be loyal and respectful to people I care about, if they’re just gonna end up making a fool out of me in the end!” It’s a fair question. Because if she loses that, I think Danielle loses the very best part of who she is. Dan claims “he leaves his ethics and character at the BB front door when he enters, and then picks it back up on his way out.” There are a FEW women I know, who can totally buy into that. Janelle is one. But Simon, most women don’t. Dan’s problem: I sense Chelsea “ticks” far more like Danielle than she does Janelle. Chelsea will tell Danielle that, game or no game, she found Dan’s endgame decisions involving Danielle to be both totally wrong and personally disgusting. And she’ll MEAN it. Dan wasn’t married when he won BB10. He is now. Chelsea’s feelings and opinions about Dan’s behaviors matter now. It impacts his marriage. Dan likes to “disregard” other opinions, because he’s positive he’s so much smarter than everybody else is. But nobody likes to be made to feel like they’re an idiot. Especially your wife. And especially when she’s isn’t! I know Chelsea is personally embarrassed that the person she saw on TV, who behaved/acted so “poorly”, was her own husbandI Even if she went back and watched BB10, I think Chelsea watched Dan treat the other HGs FAR worse this time around, and that, to her, it “crossed the line.” I also don’t think Chelsea can “compartmentalize” things like Dan, who easily and quickly dismisses his own BB game actions as “no biggie-just business.” Neither can Danielle. Right now, I believe both Danielle and Chelsea are on MUCH the same “wavelength”, when it comes to Dan Gheesling. I actually see Chelsea and Danielle becoming good friends. Simon, to wrap, I’ll give you a bit of a “crystal ball prediction” here, just as a longtime student of human nature. Don’t hold me to it. I have four sisters; I’m the oldest, and I’ve seen a LOT of drama. Now I don’t know if/exactly when the Gheeslings were planning to start a family. But I think Chelsea’s suddenly gonna be putting any immediate plans for that “on hold.” I honestly think that Chelsea is now quietly sorting out/re-evaluating exactly who her husband Dan TRULY is. Did she possibly not know ALL the “nooks and crannies” to who he was? Or WAS all of Dan’s BB14 ruthless tactics/strategy just “harmless gameplay”, as he claims? Does Chelsea still see their future together as brightly, post BB14? I DO think what Chelsea’s seen in recent weeks has her both a little concerned, and a little scared. “Is Dan really who I thought he was?” How can Chelsea NOT at least ask that now? Because her husband could NOT have shown the BB14 audience a more selfish, ruthless, cold and heartless version of himself to the outside world if he tried! Let’s check back in 3-5 years. Simon, I am NOT a Dan hater. If anything, I might lean slightly toward being a “Dan Fan,” although I did want Ian to win last night. I honestly hope that Dan and Chelsea have a long and happy marriage. I know Dan’s totally unchanged about his feelings for Chelsea. It’s HER current feelings for him that I’m nervous about. Take care, “Mr. Western Canuck!”
If Dandusky were to win BB14 they would have to put big ** by his name – because all 4 coaches literally got to float for 4 weeks without worrying about going on the block or being evicted – a Huge friggin unfair advantage – which the new houseguest had to play without!
Worst Season ever has been confirmed by TV Poll ratings way to go Allison Grodner you F-ckn’ loser – running show into ground with your Production idiotic ideas!
Dr. Will won before they added in all the other stuff like vetos etc etc – harder to win now – except this season anybody could have beaten this moron newbies!!
Dandusky is Karate Kid’s – Mr. Miyagi’s grandson, I just knew it!! + Bug-Eyed Dan looks exactly like Herman Munster’s son Eddie
Big Brother 14 will currently place @ #14 and this was pre-Olympics. If ratings do not improve BB14 will be the lowest rated season since Big Brother 9. For CBS this is a huge disappointment for one of their key reality shows.
They should bring in the The Bad Girls Club cast & put them on BB 15 it would be a Huge Ratings boost over this lame ass season! Bitch catfights 24/7 on live feeds!
Will Danielle ever speak to Dan again… I’m sure she’ll try and go on and on how bad she was treated.by him…. She had the game in her hands holding the HOH and veto. Both she and Shane were over confidant and agreed to give up control of the game to Dan. They believed he was a weaker player than them. Of course they blame Dan for their faux pas.
To me the question is if Dan will want any contact with Danielle (or any of the other loser house guests using him as their scapegoat). …Danielle’s only jury question to Ian gave the quacker packer creator an opportunity to play the wounded super hero against production’s image of the evil genius. For both the angry anti Dan jury seeking revenge and BB show fans. It cost Dan 500k. Why Danielle didn’t tell Ian about her alliance with Dan, before he voted her out while still sitting in one of the red chairs, is anyones guess.
RE : “Not to mention Danielle telling both Ian & Dan, “I won’t be voting for whoever cuts me.” To have a chance, Dan KNEW he needed Danielle’s vote.”
Dan was the one who asked Danielle to tell Ian that… to make Ian throw the third HOH to him
Anonymous, technically you’re right, but the Dan, “Danielle, yell/intimidate Ian if he wins Part 2, so he’ll then throw Part 3 to me” scheme was a totally bogus, made-up, 100% BS reason. Dan HAD to make Danielle somehow think that, by her yelling at Ian that way, that it would somehow help the Dan/Danielle final two endgame he was selling her. (Danielle swallowed Dan’s bogus plan, hook, lime and sinker.) #1-Dan knew Ian would NEVER throw HOH Part 3 (in fact, Dan’s real plan was the exact opposite: DAN was gonna (and did) throw HOH Part 3 to IAN.) #2-The second (and real) reason why Dan told Danielle to yell at Ian was to make Ian mad at DANIELLE! Ian quickly replied to her tongue-lashing, “I will NOT be intimated by Danielle talking to me like that.” Ian’s opinion of Danielle went down a few notches after that. That’s EXACTLY what Dan was going for here. Because Dan knew HE’D be losing control of the HOH, when he threw Part 3 to Ian. So Dan had to then make DAMN sure that Ian brought Dan, and not Danielle, to the final, Dan did that to Ian in two ways: #1-Dan kept bringing up that Danielle would easily defeat them both in jury, so it’s “suicide” for either of us to bring her along. #2-Just in case Ian wasn’t fully buying #1, having Danielle verbally abuse Ian, just days before Ian would have to choose between Dan and Danielle, only further improved Dan’s odds that Ian would for SURE select Dan over Danielle. (This part was absolutely VITAL in Dan’s plan.) Dan’s plan worked perfectly. Until the jury vote, of course…..
I think in the back of Dan’s mind he knew that the only person he could beat in the final 2 would be Boogie (hence the immense effort on Dan’s part to allign with the coaches then accept the silent six right up until the rumors started about Boogie and Frank backdooring Dan or Shane within a week of the alliance formation) which is why he began to change up his gameplay after he was evicted. At that point all he could hope for was that the jury would vote on game play rather than emotion, which didn’t happen.
Jim, I wanted to respond to your posts – I found them insightful. I’ll try not to be longwinded but your thoughts did force me to think. I guess many of us enjoy the BB experience from the comfort of our home and become engrossed in the comings and goings of the house. This year was particularly interesting because of a couple of the houseguests – Dan, Dani and towards the end, Ian.
What your post made me do was look at how I had been thinking about and projecting into the game. I was very confident in my judgments, even at times self-righteous. I believed Dan’s means would be justified in the end – that is – I was sure his plan was to take Dani to the F2 and I believe that Dani thought that and would have taken him. While she was not an innocent player – she knew about and was complacent in Shane’s blindside – she played along after the funeral – why, because she believed Dan. And so did Dan’s wife Chelsea. During the interviews that Chelsea gave while Dan was in the house, she said over and over – Dan is behaving this way or that – because “he ultimately wants, in the end, to be the coach that brought his player to the F2.”
As I said – I believed it too – even to the point that when I heard Dan rehearse his jury speech and knew he was, in his mind, sitting next to Ian – even though I knew what was coming – I did not internalize the betrayal. And that’s what I’m trying to understand about myself. I did not hate Dani as many seemed to – she did not grate on me – I saw her as Dan’s pawn and believed that if Dan pulled it off she would take 2nd or 1st place. I was wrong. Dan played the game for his own means – as I guess all BB players do – but I think you are correct Jim, Dan did realize during the final show that he was attending his own funeral – and I think the more that set in – the more arrogant he became. He nailed his own coffin shut by not realizing that his means – could have been justified – by taking Dani to the end and making a very thoughtful and rational pitch to the jury. Just my two cents….
Three’s Company, thanks for taking the time to even read my comments. Your words are very kind, and much appreciated. 🙂 In the interviews I’ve seen with Dan after the CBS finale, although Dan’s now supposedly “picked his ethics and morals back up, on his way out the door”, Dan’s still in total denial. His answers are like, “That’s my BB14 story, and I’m stickin’ to it!” The truth? Dan is BITTERLY disappointed with second place. Dan’s not “coming clean” at all. (What a surprise! At this point, Dan’s likely totally forgotten HOW to even tell the truth!) You’re EXACTLY right, Three’s Company. Dan could’ve morally salvaged a TON from BB14, if ONLY Dan would’ve accepted/been content with, the VERY same 2nd prize he ended up with, but brought his former player (Danielle) along instead. THAT’S how we know Dan is still lying to everybody. Dan’s BB14 words DON’T jive with Dan’s BB14 actions. Dan went to a TON of extra effort/betrayal to ensure that Ian, not Danielle, was there next to him at finals. Right after, some interviewer told Dan that Danielle was still very mad at him, feeling he’d betrayed her. Dan had the AUDACITY to deny all knowledge. “What? Why? When did I ever lie to Danielle?” Earth to Dan Gheesling! Oh. So NOW you’re gonna “make it all better”, throw Danielle a bone, and volunteer to “mentor/coach” her on how to succeed in life, post-BB14? Yeah, right. Dan, you are a complete frickin’ MORON! Also, when asked after, why on EARTH would Dan continue to assert (and re-assert) that Danielle was “in on” Shane’s blindside? 1) Dan had JUST told Julie on CBS that she wasn’t, and 2) All Dan accomplishes by saying that now is to drive a wedge between Shane and Danielle. Even if she was. Saying so now only hurts Danielle, in Shane’s eyes. Are the two “soul mates?” Probably not. But do they honestly care about each other? Absolutely. Did anyone else notice, at times in BB14, and for no real “game” reason, that Dan would seem to go out of his way, just to be “mean/arrogant/a smart-ass/demeaning” to the other HGs? Especially Danielle. Just for the SPORT of it, to my eyes. Shame on Dan for that. Dan was also asked if Chelsea is OK with his overall BB14 gameplay. Dan said Chelsea is totally fine with it. My gut disagrees. But even if Chelsea was unhappy with it, would Dan ever admit that to us? Never in a million years. To me, the one, unescapable BB14 truth for Dan is that, starting with Shane’s blindside, and continuing all the way to the very end, was that EVERY BB14 decision Dan planned for, made and executed was the wrong one, for his OWN game! To me, THAT’S the untold top BB14 headline here. Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it, Dan! It’s now obvious that Dan’s horribly miscalculated his own BB14 endgame. Dan threw BOTH of his two closest allies (Shane and Danielle) under the bus, supposedly (as he saw it) to slightly increase his OWN chance at 500K. Another Dan game mistake. And it’s now truly “poetic justice” that the HG Dan (and Dan alone) saved from “Death Row” (Ian) is the VERY same person who now has the 500K for himself! I leave you with a strange bit of irony. After Dan blindsided Shane, Dan gave Danielle a “post-event lecture.” She was unhappy with it. Dan basically said to her, “Shut up, Danielle! You have NO idea how to play this game. I DO. And I’m playing it MY way! So just stay out of my way!” And from that moment on, “Mr. BB Strategy” turned into nothing but a bumbling, mistake-prone idiot. We all saw it. But did Dan spend even one second talking about/owning up to any of his own, many, late game strategy errors? No. Why? Because Dan has NO taste for “humble pie.” Even when it’s his OWN BB14 truth. Dan Gheesling, you badly overestimate your own intelligence. You’re not gonna be selling many of your books after this. I wonder why?
OK….Ian was the person who caused the problems for Frank and Mike. They blamed Dan. Ian and others hid behind hate for Dan. Then Dan gained Frank’s trust by spilling the beans about Ian and the QP..
WHERE DAN WENT WRONG, he should have voted with Jenn to keep Frank after Ian put Frank on the block. He should have let the vote be a tie and force Ian to vote out Frank. Then Frank would have hated Ian instead of taking hate to a new level against Dan in the jury house.. Dan swore on the bible what he told Frank about QP was true and it was. It is unfortunate that Frank decided to make it personal and attack Dan’s faith and morals while forgiving every other houseguests lies etc.
Frank ended up on the block because he hated Dan so much thanks to QP mole Ian previous activities. Frank gave up a chance to play for HOH in a veto comp he didn’t need to win. He was safe. But he hated Dan and wanted him out putting his game at risk. This before he knew about Ian.
So Frank gave 500K to Ian the QP creator and person who took him out of the game. But in reality it was Franks emotions that did him in.
Same as Danielle’s romantic illusion with Shane. Funny she was going to take Shane and then claims she was betrayed by the person she had first final 2 with. Both Dani and Shane plan was to dump Dan. To bad Dan didn’t blindside Shane the first chance he had and kept Jenn. Second big mistake..
Frank underestimated and had a bias against Ian’s demeanor..This why Frank credited Ian’s game plays to Dan.
Sure was an exciting season. Dan worked hard for the 50K.. But it was Ian’s day.
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
He’s certainly the most successful player ever. As well as one of the most memorable, but as others have mentioned, it’s hard to say who’s “best” in this sort of thing and it would be impossible to prove.
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
I don’t think so. It didn’t look like it anyway. It’s a bit unbelievable that Ian hit all those answers correctly though.
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
Easily.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
5. Rocks much less than Ian in a hammock. Ian didn’t impress me that much and he thought that he did so much more than he actually did. He did not form QP, they let him name it so he would feel a part of it and to build trust. Counting the Pandora’s Box POV was BS as well imo. Looks like Dan should have taken out Ian instead of Shane. Lesson learned I guess.
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
5. 3 if you include his answers to the question section since every answer was that he took fate into his own hands.
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
6. He should have said what he practiced before, that he knew being hated he would be taken to final two.
I 100% believe that Dan (as of week 7) Is the greatest of all time period.
Ian did NOT win by playing a better game than Dan. Dan more so LOST the game because of a Bitter (frank, shane) Ignorant (Ashley, Joe, Fail City) and follower (Brit) Jury.
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I mean Jenn Joe and Ash gave Ian their votes because Dan had already won? Are yu kidding , that’s so wrong, why would they even introduce coaches into the game if these idiots were never going to vote for them anyway.
Shane felt that Dan had to be punished?? WHAT Shane was going to take Danielle to final 2 but because he got got 1st he was so upset and for that Ian desetved it>>. Come the @#%&^ on! When they go back and watch this season they should be ashamed.
If it was an all stars game Dan would have gotten the win. Ian did not win more so than Dan lost because he was sooo good,. I mean dan had a hand in every single jury members eviciton and they could not get over it,. Fail to CBS not reminding the jury what they are voting on. I mean for anyone watching to think that IAN played a better game than Dan all season? REALLY dan was the whole reason this season rocked.
Ughh thats all I have to say. I’m sure many will disagree but I bet more agree.
Thanks
SP
I didnt see anyone comment about this on the last page so ill ask here. When they revealed to the rest of the jury that danielle was the last evicted houseguest she walked out on stage and shane went to hug her and she tried to go for the mouth kiss but he pulled away and just hugged. Theres no doubt about it i watched that part 3 times. And i think thats why her face the rest of the show was so weird and upset besides the dans grandfathers cross thing. Lmao i laughed for a while about it. Did anyone else see it??
I saw it too!! I think she was also way pissed about Britney’s comment that she hoped Danielle would be coming out because Ian and Dan deserved it more.
Yes! My seven yr old and I both noticed the non-kiss and even rewound it. I am so glad Ian won. They are all 3 going to be on the Talk today, by the way.
Thanks Simon and Dawg, I found your site this season and I am an addict to it. My son and I watched our first ever Survivor last night b/c you’ll be doing the spoilers. GREAT WORK!
I watched my first ever survivor last night as well for the same reason.Don’t know who I like yet but i’m thinking Russel and the dude that burnt his hands
I have watched survivor since season 2 and I love it… Y’all will love it :)) welcome to the survivor fans and y’all will be addicted to it now and we can be big brother and survivor fans together lol :)) I’ve also been watching big brother since season 2 as well lol :))
i really did not notice that whole shane/Dani thing..However at this point shane was still unsure if Dani had really backstabbed him or not.
Shane did not even go to the jury house bb sequestered him in a hotel for the remainder of the days. So he had no contact with anyone from the house up until finale night.
I saw that too. Shane threw his head back away from her. Kind of looked like he was pushing her away. That may be why she was so sour. She told Ian about her final two with Dan to hurt him, revenge……bad thing.
Dan Best Player? One of the best.
Dan Throw the HOH? Yes, I beat him and I know s**t
Dan win vs Dani? Yes
Ian winning? 9
Ian’s speech? 10, More sincere vs manipulative
Dan’s speech?, Lame, a 2
Dan kissed a lot of butt in that speech. Ian schooled him.
Oh yea I totally agree… You could tell that dan was kissing butt lol :)) and Ian plained out owned him in everything last night and I am still shocked that jenn voted for Ian… Everyone knew that when jenn voted for Ian that it was a wrap and you could tell on everyone of their faces that they knew it and was happy about it and especially Shane and Britney was and I’m still shocked frank won America’s favorite… I really don’t know about that one because a lot of people do not like him and I’ve seen polls about him and I’m shocked Britney didn’t get the America’s favorite… Big brother likes frank anyways and you could tell but I am soooo glad that Ian won and the last four seasons of big brother, the person that won is who I wanted to win lol I didn’t like rachel in season 12 but she wasn’t that bd last season and she deserved to win especially against Porsche lol :)) Porsche just floated to the end mainly lol :)) and she got to sit out for three or four weeks because she had the key and plus she knew she wasn’t going home over Keith so the first month, she floated and didn’t have to work like the rest lol :)) I was rooting for Jeff and Jordan like always and I always will and they didn’t win so I rooted for Rachel unlike the floaters that was the rest and she deserved to win but I’m glad Jeff got America’s favorite last year also and I hope him and Jordan are on an all-stars but Jeff is just fine coming back if not Jordan lol and I believe Jeff is the only one that has won America’s favorite twice because it came on big brother in season 7 I believe which that’s what Ian said and janelle lied and said she has won it twice which that’s a lie because she was in season 6 and 7 which that’s when it came in for all-stars and been on it for awhile lol
Ian’s speech came from the heart. Dan’s rambling was a snooze fest….Soooo boring and fake. Watch the faces from the jury and you will see how they were not even paying any attention to him….What goes around comes around….
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever? I think he is at the very least one of the top two, if not the best. This was more of a vote against Dan than it was for Ian, IMO
Did Dan throw the final HOH? Doubtful
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle? Thought Brittany would’ve voted for Dan, but it seems to me that even Dan would’ve won against Dan
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock? 6 Did he deserve to win? sure. Was he the best? Absolutely not
Ian’s finale speech 1-10. I give him a 6. Surely he could’ve done better. Came off a little standoffish
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best) I give him a 6 as well. Not Dan at his best.
should say even Danielle would’ve won against Dan.
I hope dan burns in hell
Bad news for you- there is no hell
Worse news for you when you find out there is. Since you feel obligated to push your non-beliefs on us, I feel obligated to push my beliefs on you. Next time leave it alone, like most would please. Thank you 🙂
Since you feel obligated to push your non-beliefs on us?
Sniffin started it.
I’m so sick and tired of people shoving their religion down everyone’s throat.
Next time leave it alone, like most would please. Thank you 🙂
With you scurvall, so, so, so tired of the fire and brimstone bible thumpers on this site, get over it!
Thanks for your support.
I love it when my minions ask for more.
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Lol, good one!!! 🙂
Is Dan the best player ever – No, but he had one of the best BB plays ever (funeral and its aftermath)
Threw HOH: Yes (when he practiced his speech earlier you could tell – that in his mind- Ian was sitting next to him)
Dan vs Dani: Dan could have won – but he would have had to change his final speech and his demeanor during the final live show. If he had won and taken Dani and talked humbly about being her coach and what it took to get them both to the end – I think the jury might have been supportive. Unfortunately his speech was awful and his manner was arrogant (don’t yell at me I was rooting just as much for Dan as I was for Ian, okay maybe a tad more for Dan)
Ian’s speech: 10
Dan’s speech: 3
Thanks to Simon and Dawg for all their hard work!
Hey Simon & Dawg! I will e-mail the stats of Big Brother 14. Oh yeah! I need two stats seperate with Nomination votes receive (Team & Individual) survival eviction, Eviction votes, and Stays at Big Brother House on the first stats
HoH & PoV wins (Team & Individual), HoH & PoV participate, Have/Havenot participate, Luxury participate, Jury results, & etc on the second stats. And I will send you the Hall of Fame Class of 2012. And one question, who is recent youngest won Big Brother? If you have a question about this, let me know asap by e-mail or post comment.
Just one more thing – does anyone think that Production sprayed the final mist on Dani and suggested what her final question should be?
And, oh by the way, Frank American Favorite – please gag me with a spoon – Production Favorite – you bet!
I think only Allison from production got to vote for America’s Favorite. What a joke.
Sad, but so true!
I voted for Frank. He had six lives and had to fight to stay in the house. Was Frank on the block more than any other player?
poor Jodi once again. They mention her name and never let her say a word. My question is was Jodi on tv longer last night or on the first episode??
Jojo looked pretty pissed as well for some reason and they didn’t even bring back Willie, what’s up with that???????
AG will forever be a d-bag
I think Dan is one of the best. I started watching BB during season 8 so I’ve never seen Dr. Will.
I have no idea if Dan actually threw the final HOH. I hope not, but people were not answering truthfully I think. I still don’t believe Britney’s answer! She must of told Ian something when she was leaving ha.
I thought Dan would have won vs. Danielle, but watching Britney’s interview with Jeff made me think there was no way of him winning. Apparently these jurors are still bitter and can’t see that Dan was clearly the best player.
Ian winning was a 1 for me. I was for Dan all the way!
Ian’s speech was just a 6 or 7 for me. I thought he ruined things for himself with that speech, but apparently the jurors didn’t agree.
Dan’s speech was an 8. I think the compliments were a bit much, but liked how he was telling everyone like it was. Ian thinks he’s a genius for the quack pack, but he was the only one not in the alliance until Britney got him up there. End of story…
They were bitter but I don’t think Dan helped himself at all. We’re all so fond of talking about the social aspect of this game and I would venture to argue that how you treat people and how you make them feel is a pretty large part of the social game. Dan misfired last night and he misfired most of the season in that respect.
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
~No, never did and I still don’t have a “best player” assigned imo.
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
~Yes, he didn’t look upset with himself at all when he started to lose it. Seemed like a typical Dan throw to me.
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
No. Dan would have started degrading her as he did Ian and still made himself look bad.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
9. Glad he wasn’t a wannabe model/actor/former player and just a fan of the show. I think that his trust in Dan was foolish given his supposed intelligence level.
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
9. He gave an honest, from the heart speech. No sucking up bs like Dan, just the truth. He was so disappointed with Dan’s comments, I was very sad for him when he kept saying “really, really?” repeatedly.
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
2. It was over-rehearsed and sounded pathetic. No one bought his bs except Danielle of course.
Even though Danielle is a delusional silly little girl, I still wish she would have been the one to get 50K instead of Dan. BB has got to stop bringing back their has-beens to make the show more interesting.
Hey Simon, when can we look forward to Eval Dick’s interviews? Will you be posting them?
Oh and BTW, Dan TOTALLY threw the final HOH.
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever? I never once thought that, his gameplay bothered me too much 🙂
Did Dan throw the final HOH? No
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle? Yes
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock? 10
Ian’s finale speech 1-10 – definitely a 10
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best) 5, it seemed too rehearsed and bullshitty
Great season, going to miss reading about everybody in the house and the comments on here, what to do now? Guess it’s time to get a life until BB Canada, thanks for this site, much love xoxo
What gift did Jeff give Dan? That got cut off.
I don’t know if Dan was THE BEST player, but I think he can rank top 5 (at least top 10)
Ian winning? A score of 10. I was rooting for him because he’s an underdog. The guy that would typically be voted out in the first three weeks, and yet here he is, winning the game. I was very happy to see that and I know he’ll put the money to good things.
For their speeches… honestly I’m not sure. For as much as I love Ian, it didn’t feel like he nailed it as much as everyone said he did (maybe I should watch it again) because I felt that he kept repeating “I played my own game/took control of my game” and I felt he should’ve gone broader. Dan’s wasn’t too good because it was too much of a Dan’s funeral repeat. It should’ve been a “I’ve had to be a ruthless player since Day One and I had to send Jodi out the front door. I was dealt a terrible hand and did the best that I could. I’m an older guy; I’m not a competition powerhouse like Shane, Frank, and Ian are. My only skill was my mouth, and my “mist” and I had to play it like a lifeline. Did I cross the line with swearing on the bible, my wife, my grandfather? Yes, and I am sorry about that. But I had to do whatever it took to get here so I could win this for them. I’m sorry if I betrayed you, but no one ever said the Big Brother game was fair.” (Though it’s easy for me to say, he didn’t have that kind of time or insight to the other players.)
I don’t know how people could say BB14 was bad. With all the twists and turns I could barely keep my head on. SO grateful for this blog because, without it, I would’ve been lost trying to understand what was happening, and what everyone’s names even were. I’m so glad that this exists because it’s blogs/chats like these that make Big Brother that much more enjoyable.
Although I do believe CBS gave Frank America’s favorite (I think Brittany really did win it) I totally get why. He was also given a bad hand courtesy of Willie and had to fight while people like Jenn/Joe/Ashley/Danielle could practically coast. If he weren’t so mean in the Jury, I would’ve voted for him to win.
My theory on how Frank won America’s Favorite is the same theory as to why Brendon won America’s Vote for a chance to get back into the house last year: divided votes among other options.
Last year, people were up in arms when Brendon was voted in but it wasn’t all that surprising if you thought about it. Brendon and Rachel had their devoted set of fans and fans of JeJo voted for him because it helped JeJo out.. The anti-vet/pro-Donato bandwagon divided votes up between Dominic, Cassi, and Keith.
Kara, Jojo, Jodi, Joe, Wil, Ashley, or Jenn weren’t going to be in the conversation for America’s Favorite. The only reason why Wil wouldn’t have been in the conversation was because he didn’t stay long enough; his personality shines in his YouTube stuff and we would have eventually seen that had he stayed. Everyone else mentioned either didn’t stay long enough or didn’t have the type of personality people could relate to or rally behind.
Then you have an interesting set of people who enjoyed the Quack Pack. I believe that people had their favorites within the QP and voted for each accordingly. While someone may have liked Britney, that same person may have liked Shane just a little bit more (this is just for example’s sake). In the case of Britney in particular, I’ve observed that a lot of Britney fans are also Janelle fans so there’s another split of votes.
That leaves Frank and Boogie. For all the crap people gave Frank, he did have a pretty loyal group of fans and I think a lot of Boogie fans threw Frank a vote for America’s Favorite since it was Frank’s first go around/
Then again, that’s just my theory. Unless we ever see actual numbers as voting happens, the production rigging theories will probably never die.
Are you absolutely positive Brendon won AC last year i could of swore Jeff won that
You are right Jeff won America’s Fave last season: http://www.onlinebigbrother.com/big-brother-compendium/big-brother-seasons/big-brother-13/
Jeff won America’s Favorite HG, Brendon won America’s Choice for a chance to compete and return to the game among evicted HGs early in the season. This was the same week Lawon thought he was going to get special powers and pretty much evicted himself.
oh ok my bad misread i see you were just comparing the 2 scenarios
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
-I believed that distinction belonged to Will Kirby before and I still do.
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
-No. I don’t see what the gain would have been for him doing so even if he did float the idea to himself a few days ago.
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
-Absolutely. The jury deliberation pretty much gives you that answer.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
-9. He wasn’t my favorite but I’m really glad a newbie and fan of the show won the game.
Ian’s finale speech 1-10.
-9.5. His speech after Danielle asked the final two question was probably better than anything he would have had to say otherwise. Danielle voted for Dan so she could keep her word but I want to believe she knew what she was doing when she brought up the Final Two deal. His speech wasn’t as polished as Dan’s and that’s a good thing. He ended up talking himself up, railing against Dan and putting Dan’s pretty poor social game on front street in the process.
Dan’s finale speech 1-10.
-1. I honestly believe Ian’s win was 50% Ian’s overall gameplay/speech and 50% Dan talking himself out of $500K last night. He interrupted Ian and put down Ian pretty harshly (Britney leading him by a leash was unnecessarily harsh, IMO) in his response to the jury questions. He came off as pious, condescending, arrogant, and pandering in his final speech.
Also, I think we discovered something about Dan’s Mist: it either has a 10 meter (33 foot) radius and it needs to be reapplied on a weekly basis to remain effective.
I laughed at your Mist analysis (but I do agree). And thank you for saying the commont about Brittany bringing Ian by the leash was harsh-because it was. Ian had no choice but to let her; it was part of his PUNISHMENT that he WILLINGLY took as part of his strategy that obviously paid off in the end. And I’m sure that’s what a lot of jury members were thinking when he said that (they all “took Ian by the leash” so he could drink/eat/go to the bathroom at some point).
I don’t remember seeing such intense final two speeches in previous seasons. Neither guy wanted to look weak so they just spoke their hearts out.
Is Dan the greatest player? In a game where the better players are targeted more and often sent out early, the best player doesn’t always win. By objective measurement, though, Dan has 1st & 2nd place finishes, Will Kirby and Jordan Lloyd 1st & 4th. Dan is the most successful player ever at the game, whether he is the best or not.
Did he throw the last comp? It sure looked thrown, and Dan thinks almost every comp needs to be thrown by him or to him, so it’s easy to believe he would. But I’m going to go with no, because his chances would have been better with Danielle.
Ian winning definitely rocked. I’ve been pulling for him ever since he was the only one to vote for Britney, then promised her in his goodbye message that he’d avenge her by sending Frank out next — and then he delivered. Dan was the best player, though.
As far as the speeches went, Ian’s was pretty good, but not spectacular. Dan’s was surpisingly unoriginal, though. Sucking up to the jurors was useless. By now, they know Dan’s completely full of crap. Also, he had done it already in that fake funeral. I was disappointed in the “I scumbagged you all because you’re all better players than me” approach. It made his moves seem cowardly and weak, by his own admission. I think Dan’s best bet was to acknowledge his scumbaggery, then declare that he ran the house, that everyone did everything he wanted them to at all times, even his enemies, and then dare them to go on record as sore losers who voted against the obvious best player because of their hurt feelings. Make the vote a referendum on their own integrity as jurors, setting them up to look good by voting for him, and petty by voting against him.
I think last night’s results showed that you can get to F2 by playing a totally ruthless game if you’re smart enough, but there is a price to paid for it in the all-important jury votes. I think you’re less likely to see a game of all out villainy where nearly every player is manipulated and backstabbed by one player again for a while because of the 6-1 rebuke of that strategy.
Before answering my questions I think Dan won….WHY? because he got Danielle to the end (Final 3 is the end for me) , He saved Ian and he won (so Dan helped him LOL) and Ian read Dans book on how to get on Big Brother Sooooo….Dan had a BIG hand in IAN’s win:)
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
A: YES!! One of THE best… he played it like chess used pawns to protect the king!! I think he went a little to far with some things but I think DAN is one of the BEST for sure!! I love Dan, I think he does have a good heart but likes to win!!
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
A: I think he might have… he knows those people he got “into” thier minds and was very social with them, always taking notes so I think he might have just so that he wasnt the one to cut Danielle…I dont think he was prepared for her question to Ian and the answer and that bitt him!!
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
A: Yes, I think so…Danielle wasnt as well liked as she thought BUT Frank led the hate charge against Dan, I dont think Frank would be ever able to let go of his hate/ “jealousy” of Dan and Frank has a BIG mouth and took charge of Joe, Ashley and Jenns minds, so maybe/maybe not.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
A: 8-9…I was rooting for Ian and Dan because they really are very similar in alot of ways and Ian had some things that he had to over come, so I think this experience has increased his conidence, sometimes a bit cocky but overall I think he is a good kid and propbably needed the $$…Dan still won 50K so he didnt lose in my book, he just settled.
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
A: 8…I thought it was good, to the point and started offf by telling Dan he wasnt going to be kind so to speak) He highlighted achievements and kept itsort and didnt seem too nervous so it was good enough to secure his win, lets put it that way!
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
A: 5…His speech was horrible….I heard it being practiced the night before and didnt like it, I think he should have highlighted his moves instead of kissing ass with the jury! They are not stupid!! He rambled very fast, and I think all that happened prior to his speech rattled him and it showed in the way he talked.
He should have highlihted that ,Dan saved Ian, got Danielle who they wanted out along with him to the end, and he was the only coach to survive all the way to Final 2 with his only player being final 3….where was that mentioned, he got 2 people to use the VETO on him, he was always a target and still got to the end! Like I said I read it the night before and didnt like it then or now!!
Overall GREAT season….I still think that Dan should have won for the strategic moves he made but I liked Ian too, and Dan did win 2nd so that I am happy about!! I think that Dan is propbably a very nice guy outside the house like he said he doesnt have 16 people trying to evict him from his real home so he did what he had to to stay!! And even Julie told him he was the BEST player and she has been involved in them all…(She mouthed it to him at thee end during credits, look for it:)
On a side note it was interesting to see the how siimliar Dan and Ian are and I do hope that everyone can see this was a game and that Dan does like Ian and Danielle he just wanted to win the $$!
No way Dan threw the final comp he just got beat by a better player.
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?…….
Definitely not! For the jury to still be holding grudges at the finale just proves that Dan’s social game was a failure. Although Big Brother has no rules, Dan did cross the line when it comes to integrity. You can’t win BB without the jury votes and Dan was unable to “mistify” the jury at the end.
Did Dan throw the final HOH?…….
Most definitely. A few days ago on BBAD, Dan was talking to the camera about his “final 2 dilemma.” He admitted he wanted to go the final 2 with Ian, but, despite all the backstabbing he has done throughout the game, he said he didn’t have the heart to choose Ian over Danielle at the end (that was one line he couldn’t cross). So, he did what he has done best throughout the game, he let Ian win the final HOH so Ian could make the choice….no blood on Dan’s hands, again. If you replay the final HOH, you will see that after the first couple of questions, Dan was “too” quick to respond (he didn’t even pause to ensure he was answering correctly) and each time, he had that infamous “Dan smirk.”
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?……..
Dan probably had the best shot at winning against Danielle. Everyone in the jury felt that Danielle had been playing “Dan’s game” throughout the season and not her own game. So, you might as well give the prize to Dan for playing his own game.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?…….
10! It was nice to see a “newbie” make it to the end and win. The coaches twist this season put all the newbies at a big disadvantage, so it was “heroic” to watch Ian beat the best of the best! Underdogs of America unite!
Ian’s finale speech 1-10……
Without a doubt his speech rated a “10.” It was well thought out, and flawlessly articulated (no “mist”).
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)……
I would have to rate Dan’s speech a perfect “1.” Once again, Dan was spewing his “mist” all over the jury members; but this time, the most important time, they were no longer buying it.
Hmmm, Brit’s interview implies the Jury was united against Dan even if he was up against a ketchup bottle. So if Dan won final HOH and took Dani, she would of won. Only question for the interviewers to ask, is who wins if Ian took Dani?
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
A: not the best, but def one of the best. His control over people was amazing this game, if he ever came back i pray that the next group wouldnt be so gullible.
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
A: everyone is saying no, but I didnt expect Ian to win hands down like he did
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
A: for sure! She won one comp. on her own and followed dan like a lost little puppy
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
A: 9, o nly because i wanted brit to win so bad….he totally deserves it! he was grateful for everything he got/did in the house from slop to dog suits to cash prizes, to even being on the block
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
A: 8.5 – he did a good job; the emphasis on the gold necklace untruth was just silly, the jury got the point already…he breaks all swears and promises no matter if he is swearing on the bible or his wife
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
A: 4, this was his worst job misting all summer! he basically ensured that they would hate him!
No, Dan is NOT even a candidate for best player. The result speaks for itself. 6-1. He got a free ride for 3-4 weeks into the game, and found the biggest patsy of all time. The only thing he was LUCKY with, was having an idiot.
He didn’t throw the comp. He LOST. He knew his work was cut out for him with Ian. He bribed his way to Ian and Dani GIVING him the 1st HOH. Then he lost the other 2.
No…He would have lost to Danielle as well.
Ian’s win was a 10..considering who he was up against.
Ian’s speech was an 8.
Dan’s speech was a 1. ( I’m being generous). Pathetic and desperate. Crikey. He goes on and on about what fierce competitors Shane and Frank were. He couldn’t beat them in the comps. Whaaaaaaat? Did he not understand how stupid he looked? There was little Ian, sitting next to him, and even with his disadvantages, Ian WIPED the floor with him. Dan interrupted Ashley’s question to IAN. Stupid. Rambled, desperate, begging.
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I’m in total agreement!
Dan left the game last night with egg on his face. His speech was horrible and it revealed how much of a dirty scumbag player he really is. His game tactics were super dirty! In fact, I think he went from being one of the best players to a disgraced player. He showed the world that you CANNOT win by lying and backstabbing everyone.
Jury votes matters.
He lost 6 – 1.
Dan’s reputation is soiled forever.
Dr. Will remains greatest player ever. There’s no competition!
I know it galls all the Dan haters, but the simple fact is that Dan made it further in the two games he played than Will did in the two games he played. That makes Dan more successful at the BB game, like it or not. And all this business about a soiled reputation? Please. The only people still bitching about Dan are the anti-Dan contingent of the hardcore fanbase, on boards like this.
To the average viewer, ‘BB’ is over and it’s on to the next show. The vast majority of people don’t care about ‘BB’ and its contestants.
Will is a BB legend, but so is Dan. Dan played a strong second game and made it to Final 2. That’s an accomplishment, whether or not some people want to admit it. Me? I have no problem seeing both Will and Dan as great players. If any of the BB14 Houseguests soiled their reputations, it was Boogie. This season made it very clear that Boogie has to have a partner in order to play the game, and he’s not as good a player as his ‘legend’ made him out to be.
I’m confused, are you accurately assessing Dan’s game, or just looking for a lame excuse to worship Dr. Kirby?
I just have to say that i am a little disappointed. not to discredit Ian’s game because i think he played well. however i think it is easy to make moves when u are in power (HOH or POV) and having a mastermind behind you guiding your moves. that’s what i think happened in this case. Dan truly is on of the best players of this game, and i believe that the jury members were not able to step back and look at how the game was played versus their personal feelings. I think his game play was amazing in that he was able to have a hand in every single eviction of the jury members without always being in a position of power. That to me is an incredible example of strategy. i thought Ian sounded very cocky in his speeches, saying that he made his own decisions when we all know how much influence the quack pack members had in his choices. what i think cost the win for Dan was losing the final HOH comp. if he would have won that and cut Ian and taking Danielle, he would have won for sure. anyway just my little opinion 🙂
thanks Simon & Dawg for this wonderful site and I look forward to seeing you again next summer! xoxo
Just a last “Thank You” to Simon & Dawg.
You made the season even more fun (I love the editorials & Screen caps.).
See you next year!
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
No. He really needed to win last night to be Best Player Ever. He played a good game, but a flawed game. His big moves were moves made by others (and I don’t doubt he had a hand in them) and he forgot one of the biggest parts of winning BB is to win hearts and minds. We can complain and say emotions shouldn’t be part of the game, but it is and always has been. You burn people bad enough they aren’t going to come back to reward you.
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
No. His body language after the comp really indicated he was playing to win. Not for nothing, Ian got every question right, and excels at memory and logic games, so it really doesn’t matter what Dan did.
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
Probably. Danielle was overestimated as a player, there wasn’t any great love for her. Dan or Ian both could have beat her, but I don’t think the margin of victory would have been as big as Ian’s was over Dan.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
10. I was glad to see a player who wasn’t the typical BB player win. Ian is a good player. He was smart, analytic, made moves when he needed to, and played a team game when it called for that. He benefited from some good luck, but for the most part he played the game HE wanted to play.
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
10. And he has Danielle to thank for that. Her revealing that she and Dan had a final two deal too seem to light a fire under him. He made a smart, concise appeal to the jury and didn’t try to BS them.
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
4. What was Dan thinking? It was an insincere mish mash of apologies and compliments but precious little about why any one should vote for him. Going into the night I was OK with the possibility of Dan winning, but after the speech he seemed small and juvenile, totally unworthy of someone who came into the game with so much going for him. I was embarrassed for him.
I don’t understand why Dan would have had to win last night to prove he’s the best player. He’s the only former winner to ever make top 3 the second time. Seems like that would be enough. Will Kirby & Jordan Lloyd both came in 4th second time around, so hasn’t Dan outperformed them all?
Before, I thought Dan actually did have a shot at this, but the more I watch the interviews the more I don’t think so, I mean, Jenn said Dan having already won played a huuuge factor in her decision and that is just so shitty and wrong to me. Britney said the entire jury was against him and he couldn’t have won against a ketchup bottle. I am still shocked at this late hour the vote was 6-1. Woah. I mean, I give credit to Ian for arguing his points executing his speech on spot, but it’s starting to sound like Dan never even had a chance against Ian or Danielle-If he hadn’t given away his grandfather’s cross and swore on the bible and backstabbed, manipulated and lied to every jury member, would him having already won have been a backup excuse for crowning anyone but him 500k??? Dan threw everything he had into this game and even with half the money he originally came into the house for, he’s still chuckling in every interview-Big Brother really was just a game to Dan and he defnitely played to win, but he didn’t, and he’s okay with that. He continues to laugh in the aftermath, and though I’m happy for Ian, it sounds more and more like Dan in fact couldn’t win when I thought he could.
On the other hand, loved Jodi’s interview and now I understand Dan cutting her-He couldn’t really have coached or manipulated her as he did Dani. She has this free-spirited vibe about her that’s refreshing. Apparently Jojo and Danielle had some rocky confrontations in the backyard-Jojo’s interview had a part that was cut and it’s speculated she said some things about Dani that weren’t so nice. Loved Janelle’s interviews-She stays behind Dan being the best player this season, but isn’t the upset in the least Ian won. She also called the jury stupid and naive. Frank admits he’s bitter andsaid if Ian were in third place he would’ve liked to tell him he should’ve stayed with him. *Rolling my eyes* Agh, he’ll be back. Lol, both Dan and Frank already made separate alliances with Jeff if they ever returned to the house 😀
Thanks for posting the videos. I was wondering where I could see a couple.
I’m happy for Ian. Glad he won. Did not expect 6-1. That was a shocker.
Also I was completely wrong about Frank winning America’s vote. Based on what I was reading, he was much more disliked out there (not just this site) but I guess people voted for him. I did not (I voted for Joe several times).
Great season. Can’t wait for next season.
Two things that shocked me the most:
1) the 6-1 vote and Brit’s comment about Dan losing against a ketchup bottle. Well, it was Ian, but I think Jenn changed her vote. Ian’s speech against Dan’s sealed the deal and Dan cutting Ian off during Q and A kinda jumpstarted the fire in Ian. Awesome speech.
2) Frank winning AV. WTF??? He’ll definitely come back.
The Quack Pack fans may have split their votes between 5 members, which might explain why Frank won America’s Favorite. I’m pretty sure he couldn’t have beaten any of them 1-on-1. Then again, he was well below Britney, Dan & Ian in every online poll I saw. I always thought Production favored Frank and I’m pretty sure they want to bring him back. Maybe they voted a few times themselves so his America’s Choice win can be the ecuse if they decide to bring him back next year against an all-new cast.
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
A: I wouldn’t say “The” best, but practically fooling almost every single person in Jury over and over? He’s one of them.
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
A: I think so. He claims he didn’t, but most of the questions were fairly simple to guess and it was 50/50 shot. It felt like he threw it. The Britney one he really did miss.
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
A: Yeah probably. Britney said she’d wanted to see Danielle in Jury as being the least deserving bewteen the three, but I feel Dan and Danielle would’ve argued who carried who at which Dan would’ve completely thrown her under the bus, but I agree with Megan about Dan giving Ian his grandfather’s cross-If Dan had won and taken Dani and that came out….I don’t know.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
A: 8.5. (a few weeks ago this would’ve been 10, but I think Dan had a shot and Ian had an alliance for the first third and last third of the game. He had some help time to time, but when he played by himself he won when he needed to and kept himself in the game at the end by agreeing to everything Dan said, but gained some fire from Dan’s attempts to crush him and rose above)
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
A: 10 (great delivery, he owned it)
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
A: 4 (all of those damn compliments between giving his reasoning for his actions-It was super fast in his usual coaching voice and instead of stroking their egos, I think he could’ve just said what he did and why he did it without yelling and slapped on a solemn face. Ian beside him is jittery and sweating the whole time and Dan is laidbacked and smiling. I thought he could’ve snagged a few more votes, but after Ian’s speech and his, and the Q and A, Ian had it. Even when Janelle said if Dan didn’t win it’d be a BB travesty, I felt he could’ve had it-It was Dan who failed to convince them, but second place is not THAT bad!! He made it this far, but came off a bit sheepish in the end. He and Ian would’ve beat Danielle easier, I feel, but Ian wanted to beat the best and he did it).
Look at this season’s final seven:
7. Joe – won zero competitions, total floating waste-of-space, no true friends
6. Frank – strong in competitions, made several friends, but he took the low-road with Booger which guaranteed he’d be targeted continually and had worthless allies in Jenn & Ashley, he basically has a plan for failure despite a few strengths that could have made him a winner
5. Jenn – won virtually nothing … one POV, floated with no real friends/alliance
4. Shane – agreed to let Danielle put him on the block for no valid reason whatsoever, risking a guaranteed final three. That move was too dumb for words. No one that dumd deserves to win. But he was good in competitions … early in the season, but not late in the season when it mattered most.
3. Danielle – dumb as dirt, couldn’t read any other player … Ever. She had a guaranteed final three (actually final two) BUT decided to squander the opportunity by putting Shane on the block, thereby, allowing Dan to send him packing. She definately didn’t deserve to win.
2. Dan – had no chance to win come voting time so he actually played a horrible game IF the goal was to win the 500k. Despite flattering all the jury members one-by-one and making other appeals, Dan could only get one jury vote from the dumbest player of all-time. Oh, and let’s not forget: Both Dan & Danielle benefitted by losing their 2 teammates early in the game. As a result of these losses, no one seriously target the remaining duo for two months. Everyone was afraid of the remaining Power-Teams (Brit’s, Janelle’s & Boogers)
I love BB, but let’s not pretend these players were anything special. Bad players make it near and to the end ALL THE TIME.
Ian was the one-and-only star. He deserved his win. … Frank had his moments as well, but this was the Ian Show.
Ian said two powe words to Dan, on the final clips of the show which I did not here at first, RIsk Averse. He said that when Dan was trying to mist hm into throwing the hoh to him. Ian broke the Mist and took his destiny in his own hands. Did not bank his money on Dan or on whether Dani would taint the Jury.
So,
Ian win 1-10. – 10
Ian speech 1-10 – 10
Dan threw hoh- Yes
Dan final speech 1-10. – crap
Dan best player – only if you have not seen Dr Will. So answer – NO
Dan vs Dani. – dani.
Ian’s comment is based on one of his classes called “game theory.” Basically given a choice between two moves, people should avoid the risk.
Game Theory also assumes that people can be expected to do whatever appears to be in their own best interest, not what they told you they’d do. Employing that would have helped Danielle, Shane and Frank quite a bit when predicting Dan’s moves.
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever? I think he is by far one the best players to ever play this game.
Did Dan throw the final HOH? I don’t think so,
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle? Probably.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock? A 10, I really thought that they would see that Dan played the better game. It takes alot of skill in order to get someone else to do exactly what you want them to do. But to get 7 or 8 people to do what you want them to do over and over, takes skill.
Ian’s finale speech 1-10 – probably a 5. I really don’t even remember the speech.
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 An 8. I think the jury knew he was trying to suck up and it didn’t work.
Ps: where is Danielle’s. Backyard interviews?
I don’t know if this will go through but here is her interview
http://www.globaltv.com/bigbrother/video/danielle+murphree/video.html?v=2281559690&p=1&s=dd#bigbrother/video
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
Absolutely and it isn’t even close. In his first season he won several competitions when he had to and he played one of the most honest games we’ve seen from someone who actually won. The second time he was in he realized when Frank had him on the block that his alliance had turned on him and despite his saving Ian that Ian wasn’t going to use the veto on him. So Dan correctly realized that he couldn’t play the same nice, honest guy routine from his first time and he adapted. He then put on what is quite simply the best strategic and social game in BB history. Dr. Will could take notes from Dan. Dan not only misted people he had every possibility covered so that no matter who won or lost he had an angle to stay in the game. He also managed to stay loyal to the Quack Pack with the exception of having to throw Britney under the bus and to be fair everything he told Frank was true in that post funeral talk regarding her and the Pack. After they got Frank and his floaters out then Dan had to work against Ian and Shane but no one should blame him as any alliance that gets that far has to eventually turn on itself.
Did Dan throw the final HOH? I think once he missed the first question he did throw it. Before that I think he was trying to win. He wanted Ian to be the one to evict Danielle so he wouldn’t have her blood on him.
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle? Easily. Or at least rational thinking jurors instead of the bitter babies we saw would reward him.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock? 5. Ian was a nice kid and I like seeing a superfan win but Ian was just as dirty as Dan was. The exception being that Dan was operating at a master’s level in terms of strategy and social game and Ian was operating at an average BB player level.
Ian’s finale speech 1-10 8. He had strong speeches and curiously Dan let him slide on a lot of questionable points. Ian absolutely did not start the Quack Pack and he absolutely stabbed every single member in the jury in the back at some point. Ian did a great job in pointing out his competition wins and making Dan look bad.
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best) 5. The time when Dan needed to come clean with just how deep his strategies engrossed the house was last night. Instead he offered some rationalizations but didn’t stress enough that once he realized he was alone in the house and he wasn’t as good as Frank/Shane in physical comps that he needed to play a much more strategic game. The jury voted what I feared would happen: Brit and Frank would let their egos and pride get in the way of seeing just how great Dan was and they roped the rest of them into a pure anti Dan vote as opposed to a honest vote. Ian didn’t even realize until he was told that Dan had also made a final two deal with Dani.
It was one of the best seasons of BB and I truly hope we see some of the people return again. I’d love to see Dan, Ian, Brit and Frank back. I doubt we’ll see Dan or Brit again but one can always hope.
Instead of calling the jurors names, would it really be so difficult to admit that Dan’s social prowess sucked this season? Yes, lying and backstabbing are part of the game but not burning bridges or mending those bridges are also part of it. In the end, Dan burned too many bridges and didn’t bother mending them aside from a last ditch, transparent effort.
The brilliance of Dr. Will was that even though he backstabbed and manipulated, he somehow found ways to remain likable or forgivable in doing so. He steamrolled people and somehow kept in people’s good graces. People were pissed at him and Will wasn’t even apologetic most of the time but he still came out smelling like a rose most of the time. If he had made it to the end of BB7, he would have won $500K again (the other HGs said as much at the finale that season) but Erika and Janelle are much smarter than Danielle and Shane and took him out when they had a shot.
Dan’s social game “sucked”? That’s why he was able to completely mist people into protecting him or not seeing him as a target, right? Dan’s social game was outstanding. The people you are referring to with Dr. Will were mature enough to admit he was a great player that played them. In this case the jury was too bitter to do that. Even by your own words Dr. Will screwed over more people than Dan did (on each of his seasons I might add) and yet the jury felt it was smart gameplay. Why can’t you give Dan the same consideration you so clearly afford Dr. Will?
Will absolutely burned more people than Dan did but where Will succeeded and Dan didn’t is that Will somehow remained likable through it all in the eyes of the jury. Dan manipulated and got his way but he ended up souring people to the point where they wouldn’t vote for him. That’s where the social game sucked. In backstabbing and manipulating, he was banking on the jury tossing their personal feelings aside. But social game encompasses everything in the house, including how the other HGs are treated and how they feel about you. No one in any walk of life socializes while compartmentalizing their feelings and how they’re treated. Britney foreshadowed all of this when she said “I know it’s just a game but it still matters how you treat people in this house.” Dan really didn’t take heed of that.
The reason I afford Will the consideration that I don’t afford Dan is simple: Will still had the jury liking him, Dan didn’t. If Dan cut people and had the corpses smiling as they lay, my feelings about how he played would be completely different. I even thought he was the favorite last night until his jury answers and speech where he alienated himself even further by misreading how the jury members would have reacted to him.
Dan overstrategized, IMO. The funeral was the best game move ever and it blows away what I consider to be the second best move ever (Will’s “I hate all of you” speech). But I think he got this aura of invincibility afterward that he could do or say anything he wanted as long as it got him to the end without facing repercussions from the jury members.
Other than Boogie Ian was pretty straight forward about who he was going after, not a lot of backstabbing. Frank knew Ian was gunning for him, Ashley knew she went out because of her alignment with Frank, etc
Dani did this to herself,,, if she would of let Dan put Shane up and not Joe, she would of been in the final 2,,, but she thought her and Shane could of gone to the final 2 and her winning got in her way,,, it like Dan said we could of had a floater Jenn City,,, so Dani got what she deserved, Also, dan knew when the final 3 was done,,,, that Ian was going to win,,,,
I don’t think Dan is the best ever he’s up there though.For me that title will always belong to Dr Will unless him and Dan do a season and Dan mists him
I don’t think Dan intended to throw the HOH to start,but when he fell behind it looked like he said to himself the hell with it and then threw it
It’s hard to say if Dan would have beat Danielle or not.I personally think it would of been a no brainer to vote Dan over Danielle,but Britney said he couldn’t of beat a ketchup bottle so idk
Ian winning on a scale of 1-10 is an 8.I liked him the best out of the final 3 but would have rather seen Frank or Boogie in the end.Hey we all have our favorites
I thought Ian’s final speech was a 10 simply because he couldn’t do any better if he rehearsed it for a year(Though i wanted Julie to tell him to shut his mouth while Dan was talking or he’d be disqualified and i can’t stand Dan)
Dan’s final speech was a 6 as good a speaker as he usually is he fell way short of the bar.His mist turned to piss
All I can say is that I’m sooooooooooooo happiy Ian won!!
Won by default
evil dick said dan has been playing with the most feeble minded players and that shit wont’n fly if it was allstar and i do agree ….. dan is such a motivational speaker that he was his own down fall …. julie had to tell dan not to speak while ian was speaking dan was trying to crush ian but end up crushing himself …. dan give kudos to the jury but britney and frank was smiling because he was milking it after he send there ass to jury ……….
these three things cause dan the game
1/ he over did it with his speech going at ian talking about photographic memory
2/he burned every jury member
3/dan won the game befor there was no way these jury members was going to reward him a two timer
the jurors slapped the sparkle ouuta dan teeth …danille throw away 500000 because she is inlove with dan .. rachel riley back on the side danille has turned into the most hated player of all 14 season of bb …. she lies about everything .. she said on many occasion that she has a life threatning disease claiming she has beaten cancer … then she said she higher than a RN almost a doctor , talking bout doctors come to her for advice then finally she admits she’s lpn … danille dependency on men is unbelievable danille picking her face all season she pick atleast 95% of her brain out ……. most players get ONE chance to win this game but people want dan to win it twice……. u can say ian doesnt deserve the money but we aint the jury dan got got… i dont care how much of a good player dan was if he shit on my dreams and evict me i would not give him 500000
Let me address this best player ever thing.
The show’s been on 14 seasons. That’s 14 games … A mere 14 winners.
When a sports league has been around for 14 games — not weeks or years — are people obsessing about the ‘best ever’. No.
Any player who wins BB once … and who returns and sticks around for a few weeks is considered one of the best ever.
Earlier this season people speculating that Will or Booger or Janelle was the best ever.
Funny thing is Danielle targeted Janelle because she was jealous of her.
None of the guys were jealous of Dan, if they were, he mIght have been summarily bounced.
Dan failed 100% to put himself in a position to win the 500k DESPITE making it to the final two. Heck, let’s be honest Ian took Dan to the finals because he knew he could beat him.
After 50 seasons of BB, we can start talking about the best ever. Or until someone wins TWICE. Havinv a season of all winners which would guarantee a two-time winner wouldn’t work too well because we know players have secret agreements BEFORE entering the House. The LA crowd who can rally the biggest pre-alliance would probably walk away with a tainted win.
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
Before this past week I thought so, but not anymore. I have not seen anyone point out Dan’s biggest mistake – evicting Shane. Everyone is subject to his mist, even himself as Simon and Dawg pointed out in one of their updates! 🙂 When he won his HOH, his target was Ian. Ian won POV and saved himself. When he had the chance to evict Ian, he didn’t. He sent Shane packing. He had to know he could not beat Ian in the final two. While Shane may have won part 1 of the final HOH, Shane could not beat a rock in part 3. Dan easily could have convinced Dani to take him to the finals if Dan lost part 2 to her. Perhaps Dan made the decision when he evicted Shane that he could only win $50,000, so he assured himself that. But I would take the change at nothing for a chance at $500,000.
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
No. He had to know he could not beat Ian, right?
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
Based on the cut of what was shown in the jury meeting, yes. Based on how bitter the jury still seemed when asking the final 2 questions, no.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
10
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
9
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
0 – This speach was terrible. Dan should have pointed out that he was a target from day one. He had the last pick of the coaches and as a result lost the first HOH competition, forcing him down one person before the game started. He lost his second player in week two because the first HOH targeted his and Boogie’s strongest players and the antics of a person who was thrown out of the house for fighting, cause his player to be evicted. Out of all the coaches, after only a week, he was in way worst shape than the others. He should have said he made a decision then to stay loyal to the one player he had remaining the rest of the way, whether or not he entered the game, and when he did enter the game, he got the both of them to the final three. When the reset button was pushed, he knew he was immediately a target. So, he helped establish the Quack Pack (no one founded this, they all came together) to get some form of safety. (And now, the most important part…) While Ian is not a floater, he was also NEVER a target of anyone. In fact, the only person to target Ian at any point before the final four in this game was Dan himself when Dan won his HOH. He was forced to play ruthless because he was a target. All the other targets are out of the house. However, no one’s target, Ian, and the pawn of the season, Danille, were in the final three.
I was happy that Frank won america’s favorite,but i do think he probably finished third in the vote behind Dan and Ian.My question to evreyone would be was boogie the best coach since he 1)wanted to remain a coach and 2)His players all walked away from the game with more than the stipend
Without a doubt booger picked the best team! Dan was creating fodder. And dr will predicted Ian would win before the coaches entered! Those guys know who would be strong.
ian telling the jury dan give him his grandfather watch seal it for dan
totally agree!! there was NO way he was going to recover and i think he knew it!
Danielle’s face was was awesome when Ian told her that.
Was there a back yard interview with the rest of the house guests if so where can i find them at
i believe dan is the best bb player ever. with that being said i am very happy he didn’t win. if he had won it would have changed the way bb is played forever and not for the better.
i believe dan didn’t start out planning to throw the final hoh but when he got the brit one wrong he threw the rest.
Brit was right ANYONE would have bet him in final 2
Ian winning was a solid 10. finally a fan winning. someone who waited years to try out. not a model/actor/whatever wanna be
Ians speech was an 8. he hit some good points but neglected to mention some importants ones also
dans speech a 1. Dan remember your funeral? final speech seemed the same
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
~~Eh..I thought he got a lot of help being America’s player last time..and this time he simpy played a super dirty game. To me the better player is somone that can do the dirty but still have people like you after.
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
~~YES
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
~~Yes…he would have based on how the jury was talking. Plus he would have only had to say he told her everything to do and she dd it, which would have been the truth.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
~~11
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
~~10 The stuff coming out about Dan giving Ian his Grandfather’s cross was awesome and heped Ian out alot.
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
~~4 It was so lame. Heck even Jen didn’t vote for him.
All in all a pretty fun season to watch. I wish Brit would have gotten America’s fav..I think Frank getting it is a bt of a stretch.
See you next Summer Simon and Dawg..thanks so much for all the work you guys do!!
Bitter Jury.
Wil said it best last night.
(It was something like),…
“If you got played, don’t blame the player…
YOU got played, it was YOUR OWN FAULT.
Loved that moment. I think he said about lying, “YOU fell for it,” Again and again…” The truth.
And Ian is Laughing all the way to the bank hahahahaha
Does everyone still think Dan is the best player ever?
I still believe he’s the best player ever. Based on what I’ve seen from his two season, I’d put him above Dr. Will. That’s just my opinion
Did Dan throw the final HOH?
Honestly… I’d say yes. I wasn’t sure at first but those questions had pretty set answers to and it was odd that he chose the wrong ones. Even my wife who ONLY watch the tv show knew the answers that should have been easy for Dan to get.
Would Dan have won Vs Danielle?
No. The other players knew they would vote for Ian against Dan but Coach against Player would have been harder to choose from for them. They took Dan’s backstabbing too personal and not actual gameplay. Had Dan done it to me, I would have applauded him but still want to strangle his neck. That’s the way the game is played: get them out before they get you out and he did his job.
On a scale of 1-10 how much does Ian winning rock?
I’ll give it a 10. It was a great moment, including everyone chanting “quack quack”. Ultimate Big Brother fan wins it all. How can you not like that?
Ian’s finale speech 1-10
I’ll give it a 8. I don’t know what he had planned beforehand but going off the cuff with the new information he got during the Q & A made it that much better.
Dan’s finale speech 1-10 (10 being the best)
I’ll give it a 4 but the reasoning behind that is he didn’t change anything from practicing to try and convince the judges. You could hear in their voices they didn’t like the way Dan answered some questions and he should have been able to adjust to make them happy. He didn’t and it was a let down. For someone who had thought on his feet the whole season, he benched himself during the biggest play of the game.
First of all, thank you so much Simon and Dawg for the amazing website and in words of Dan ” 24/7 (reporting) this game”
Now on this topic, I think that Dan gave a terrible final speech and Ian gave a great one and thats why it was 6-1; otherwise Ian had no business getting for example Jen’s vote. If Dan had done a better job I truely believe he had a shot at Jen, Joe, and even Ashley and Shane!! now before you think im crazy, hear me out. right after Ian said the gloves are off and im disgusted with you and I founded quack pack……. In my opinion Dan’s speech should’ve been something like this:
Ok Ian the gloves are off. First of all, you did not found QP; Qp consisted of 4 core alliance members (looking at the jury) Danielle, Shane, Britney and I. We were also part of another alliance called Silent Six that had the same 4 plus Frank and Mike (Ian looks shocked) and that is why Janelle was evicted and Frank did not backdoor me the following week. (looking at Ian) Ian you were clueless about alot of things that happened in the house including the silent six, me working all along with Danielle and disguising it by hosting my funeral and you didn’t even know that you were the target during the last double eviction night which you won the pov! (Ian looks shocked again and Jury notices) Unlike Ian i controlled my destiny in this game; me sitting here was not Ian’s decision; it was me manipulating him to keep me if he won f2. Ian on the other hand was ready to go home at final 4 until i saved him cause it benefited me. (looking at the Jury) Frank i know you hate me so much that no matter what i say you will never vote for me but i do belive that i have a shot at other houseguests so i am going to address it. Britney, i had to save myself and it came at your cost but i hope you understand (he doesn’t have a shot at her but he has to address it) Jen, i think u’d agree that i had the hardest path to get here considering the target on my back and i hope you can give me credt for that. Joe, strategically you played a great game and you were on to me number of times and i hope you can see that strategically i played a better game than Ian. Ashley, I know Frank has been telling you to vote for Ian but this is not his decision its yours; Even if you decide to vote personal which i think you shouldn’t in this game, Ian was the one who nominated you and sent you to the Jury not me. Shane, wheather you believe me or not blindsiding you was the hardest thing for me in this game but i hope you can see that if you had won the final HOH, you wouldv’e taken Danielle with you to F2 and i was also affraid that Danielle’s feeling would grow for you more and she would take you to F2 with her. Danielle, unlike what i said in funeral you were like memphis to me and when you watch the show, you’ll see that i never once plotted to get you evicted and if i had won the final HOH i would have def taken you to the F2 with me. (looking at the jury) guys i know that i lied, cheated and backstabbed in this game but that was the only way i could have gotten here considering the huge target that was on my back. Every single one of us lied in this house and said what the other person wanted to hear and maybe i lied more but i had to cause i had the biggest target on my back. I hope you can see that this is a game and I played a great game and am possibly deserving of your vote. Thank you. THE END
I know that was long and sorry for that! lol and that probably would have exceeded the time limit but my point was that he needed to attack Ian regardless of the fact that Ian attacked him and more so because he did. And he should’ve addressed each jury member seperately adding more specifics concerning their eviction and why he should get their vote.
To answer your questions Simon : 1- Definitely in top 2 alongside Dr Will; its hard to say who is better cause its hard to imagine all other things being equal (the cast, twists, profession outside of BB [will makes alot of money],… ) ; even if Dan had won, he still would be in top 2 and not the conclusive greatest player 2- No he did not throw the final HOH, Ian simply just nailed it 3- He most likely would’ve won against Danielle especially after seeing the jury talk in final episode and how they thought Dan carried her 4- I would give it a 6 cause Ian was indeed the 2nd best player of the season in my opinion 5- Ian’s speech (9) Dan’s speech (2.5)!
sorry for the long post guys! lol Hope you all have a great day even if you don’t agree with a word i said! 🙂
even though i was rooting for Frank but i LOVE the speech u made for Dan and i think it would have guaranteed him the 500K, sadly he felt short and ran out of mists due to his lack of sleep i guess as he stated!!!
Ian’s Speech was SPOT ON!
Ian earned 10 points.
Dan’s speech. All he did was apologize and his smugness displayed total insincerity.
Dan earned -10 points.
Is Dan the BEST BB Player ever?
NO!
Did Dan throw the Final HOH?
No.
While he was in the kitchen with Ian, he mentioned guessing most of his answers.
Ian said he had guess a few answers, too.
Dan vs Danielle
Danielle would have won. She would have appeared “sweet and sincere,” while Dan would have been
just as smug as he was with Ian.
(Thank goodness, Dannielle never got to the Final Two and thank goodness Dan didn’t win the $500,000.)
Ian’s Win scored a 10, BIG TIME!!!!
The pucker factor was off the chart on Dan’s speech,
It was good that Ian won, but Dan did play an overall much better game. He got Ian & Dani to THROW the first part of the final HOH. That’s just crazy. He got Frank to somehow overcome his Dan-hate, to switch to Ian-Hate, while maintaining Ian on his side. Ian just got lucky. But, at the end of the day, people are voting and those people have feelings. This was the most bitter jury ever and Dan really should have accounted for that. He should have told them to vote for the best player, not the one they liked the most. Ignore who’s played it before and try to suspend emotion when voting. I think he could have MAYBE turned a couple of voters, but he just kissed ass and danced around the questions.
He played his worst game at the very worst time and he for that, he deserved to lose.
Yes! Dan is the best player ever. Albeit, I haven’t watched all seasons of BB lol but has anyone else made it to the final 2 twice? Has anyone else managed to win both first place and second place? I hear a lot of Dr. Will this and Dr. Will that but seriously, was he able to brain warp his way into the finals twice? Was the great Mike Boogie able to do that? Uhhh no. There came a time in both of their games where people voted them out and they couldn’t do anything about it… they couldn’t pull off a 180° Dan’s Funeral type move and they went home. Even though Ian beat Dan this season, he still can’t touch Dan as a player until he comes back a second time and also makes it to the final 2. There won’t be a better player until a past winner can win first place twice Just sayin’.
I honestly don’t know if Dan threw the final HOH. He contemplated throwing it and then said nah on the feeds. It’s Dan. You really never know.
Dan vs. Danielle. Danielle: Shane, Frank, & Joe. Dan: Britney, Ian, & Ashley. Jenn seems like she voted on game play but Danielle was her closest friend besides Frank. I think he would’ve had a better chance against Danielle than Ian.
Ian winning was a ten out of ten. Everyone roots for the underdog. It was the most deserving final 2 that I’ve seen since Evel Dick and Danielle Donato.
Ian’s finale speech was great. Again, everyone roots for the underdog and everyone likes seeing the little nerdy guy stand up for himself. Way to be a man and tell it like it is haha. A lot more passionate than Dan’s pre-planned stuff. I didn’t like how he answered the questions. Too much took control of my fate and destiny destiny destiny. He only had one line.
Dan’s finale speech was Dantastic but at that point, his mist had worn off almost completely. Every time he uses his mist, it gets a little less potent and by that point, his mist was barely a soft haze… especially considering the fact that the jury members got to get clear of the mist and breathe fresh air at the jury house. Had he given that speech when they were all still inside the house and everyone was still sitting in his white fog then I think that it would have had more power.
The top part of your comment is spot on in the sense that Dan does have the best 2 finishes,but i would have to argue that Dr Will’s fourth place finish in season 7 was more impressive than Dan’s second place finish this year.If you haven’t watched all the seasons i would say watch seasons 2,3,6 and then watch 7(7 is my all time favorite)I think you would then see some of the very good players who had already been through the game before that Dr Will had to overcome to get that 4th place finish.You will also see that Dr will’s fourth place finish was closer to a first then Dan’s 2nd place
And boogie winning the season is proof of that.