Jmac’s tells Steve if he won HOH “Vanessa and a twin up, or Vanessa and You”

The goblins need to go to Vanessa and narc out the twins, Austin and jmac. She’ll be hell bent on revenge the next week or two. Keeps them safe and Vanessa will feel like she can work with them. There will be an endurance and James can take out Vanessa then.

As a loyal fan of BB for the last decade, I now cringe when someone’s plan is to backdoor someone. They even call it a backdoor when its not even a backdoor. When you’re an HOH don’t rely on the alternative, put up two viable targets, and that way someone who was legitimately threatening will go home.

I bring this up because its honestly annoying to hear them come up with plans that will only work if the execution is perfect, as if they didn’t have the prime opportunity as the HOH. It baffles me to no end that Jmac is considering putting up the goblins. That plan goes wrong if Vanessa wins the POV.

The smartest thing to do would be to put up Vanessa and Liz, thus ensuring that either Vanessa (really strong player) or the glue that holds the biggest alliance in the house goes home. They’re figuring it out slowly, but i mean COME ON get it together.

I used to be all for getting rid of Vanessa, now it is a bit too late to get rid of her too soon. The Aus-Twins have way too much power to go unnoticed for too much longer. Even Vanessa must realize, she is at the bottom of the pole and must make a move soon to eliminate one without implicating herself. It is sad to say, she has become an important piece to separate such a power house of votes. I hope people start to realize that she isn’t the big piece anymore and all the Aus-Twins are trying to do is jump from one power to the next as a way to not piss off evicted house guest.

Production is directing everyone. Austin said production wanted them to be a little quitter about who they were going to keep to build up suspense for the lfeeders . I wonder if jmac is going home. I am mad I have even watched this week . Meg ,James ,Austin and twins have all mentioned the fairies or DR. Don’t call Jmac 20 times a day that makes people jealous and he doesn’t get sleep. I think they made Jmac paranoid and that’s why he was so weird and upset last week. I also think they made Audrey super paranoid and that hurt her game. I think they helped Van stay in, I wish the would stop messing with it. Manipulate it for Jackie or Jason to come back. Just kidding !

Jackie did walk out of the house like a pro, and she was solid in her interview w/ Chenbot too.

Yeah Asstin you’d better save some for tonight. It’s a miracle you’re not a dehydrated shriveled husk.

Lots of people saying they should wait to take out Vanessa and go after austwins however I feel like regardless if any of those 4 win they won’t take each other out anyways. So might as well get Vanessa out first. Austwins are easily controlable. They float to power. Vanessa is on her own mission. Regardless everyone else in the house is in charge of taking those 4 out because they are all too scared to turn on each other. If a twin or Austin goes out before Vanessa it will weaken the other two and they will fall right back under Vanessa’s control. She needs to be the first to go out of “austins Angels” ugh such a dumb name!

Looks like Asstin is eating something besides Liz’s neck. Hope he’s washed his hands.

will someone get Jmac a sandwich, he looks like he’s very HUNGRY..

Steve talking to the camera after his meeting with JMac says, I’m taking James out, he’s going next. What will Meg do next. Steve’s sick goes up, Vanessa is not backdoored and JMAC & returning houseguests are screwed. They’re forced to Steve JMac because Goblins are destroyed, and can’t stand Austwins for voting them out, being Vanessa’s minions, and will get voted out next. Will Meg give you a goodbye kiss. James first crass joke to Meg: Do you have a little Asian in you? Do you want some? And his ex-girlfriend’s nickname for him was Creep. No kidding.

Of all the threats, Steve wants James out? This is the slacker strategy, we shouldn’t be surprised. Steve’s gonna play between multiple groups until one takes him to Final 3. His money is on Vanessa, and if JMAC can’t figure that out, he’s not trying.

I think a lot of the svengali meets machiavelli image that’s been given to Vanessa is ill founded. For the first few weeks she wasn’t controlling everything. She was convinced to do things by Shelli and Clay (giving Audrey a chance, going after Dayvonne). She orchestrated the Jeff eviction because of Jeff’s poor relationship with Austin, to keep Austin in the game. She flubbed her own game by letting Shelli and Clay convince her to keep Austin after she set the target on him due to him running at the mouth half cocked behind his alliances’ back. She’s been playing the game, yes. but she’s been playing the game her alliance needed her to play when they needed her to play it to keep a numbers advantage. Dayvonne goes because Clay sees her as a threat, Jeff goes because he’s a threat to Austin, Jason goes because he’s a threat to the twins. And she’s evil incarnate for it.
Her strength has been seeing what is going on around her and reacting to it until her blindside nomination. Since then she’s been iso by her own alliance and lost in the game.
Everyone in the game has exaggerated her game so that everyone can blame her for all the ills in the game. Becky blames Vanessa for her failed hoh. it was James’ decision strenthened by Vanessa outing Becky’s connection to Shelli and Clay after the fact. Meg and Jackie blame Vanessa for Jackie’s eviction. It was Steve going with the information that three weeks before Jackie said Steve was a target, which Jackie did. John is blaming Vanessa for the argument that was actually caused by John and Clay making up stories, and Vanessa and James trying to figure out why their names were being dragged through the mud. John doesn’t want to get caught for making up stories so Vanessa is the villain.
The things that are being postulated about Vanessa on most fronts are shift in blame.
She makes too many deals and she gets way too paranoid, but she hasn’t been pulling everyone’s strings. for the first part of the game she was protecting her alliance’s interests at every turn thanklessly.
I don’t see Vanessa as the big bad everyone is saying she is. She had a good strategy until her second HOH, things have been going south since because she hasn’t been able to adapt successfully since then.