POV Holder: | Vanessa | POV Competition | Aug 22nd |
POV Used | No | POV Ceremony | Aug 24th |
HOH | Austin | Next HOH | Aug 27th |
Original Nominations: | Steve and Jmac | ||
After POV Nominations: | Steve and Jmac | ||
Have Nots | No have nots this week |
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9:30am Big Brother wakes up the house guests. When the live feeds return – Johnny Mac is sitting alone in the havenot room. After Steve heads upstairs Meg goes into the havenot room and talks with Johnny. Johnny says that at some point today they’re going to tell me I’m going home. So at this point I pretty much have nothing else to lose.. I am going to tell you everything. Meg says okay. Sh!t! Johnny says around week 4 or 5 Steve came to me with a final 2 deal.. so that is a thing. Meg says duh! Johnny says we haven’t been on the same page of everything .. but we haven’t been going after each other. The one big thing was during the double eviction I wanted to send Vanessa home and he wanted to send Jackie home for some reason .. I couldn’t figure it out. We went into the storage room and we didn’t come to the same conclusion on it … then it happened. The next week I wanted to send Vanessa home .. and its me and Becky on the block. I went to Steve and said its me and you in this game we need to decide which one of these groups we should choose. Austin and the twins because there are three of them. So Steve brings me up there and we make the alliance. I have something to tell you, I’ve had a final 4 deal since Gronk Pong with Vanessa, Austin, Liz and then we became 5 (with Julia). So that is why I told Vanessa about the final 5 deal because it ticked her off. Meg says because they already had one. Johnny says yeah. Steve is their lap dog and has been for a long time. Johnny says I’m sure you’ve been hearing take me out or Steve with whoever comes back. Just like I’ve been hearing take you guys out preferably James or Vanessa. We’re in a situation where they were dumb enough to put their lap dog up on the block. I am pretty sure I can get Vanessa to flip. If we flip the votes 3 – 2 then I will own it when Steve walks out the door saying that I orchestrated it. It would be 4 of us going against Liz and Julia. If you keep Steve he will probably put you guys up. He won’t turn on them, he’ll turn on them the week after. If you guys win HOH you can do whatever you want. They if they win HOH I will tell them to put me on the block. I will sit down during the POV competition and I will ask everyone to vote me out. Meg says the only thing is how to handle it before because they will be like holy sh*t. Johnny says I’ll own it. I don’t if Vanessa is on board but I will find out. Around 5pm we will be sitting in the purple room, You guys will be in your beds, I’ll be in the day bed and Vanessa will be in the chair. I’ll turn to James and Johnny says If we don’t do it its James or Vanessa next week. We can say something to know we’re all on board. Meg says Steve won’t tell us who he is after. Johnny says its time for a blind side. Meg tells Johnny to tell Vanessa we’re flip floppers. I will want to talk to Vanessa after.
Steve asks Austin does James and Meg know I’m safe? Austin says no but they know that we’re voting to keep you safe so that’s whats going to happen. He just gave up last night. He was supposed to talk to the girls and he didn’t.
10am Meg comes to talk to James. Meg says the only thing that I have a problem with is they haven’t put us up. He thinks he can get Vanessa to flip to take out Steve. James then goes to talk to Johnny Mac. Johnny Mac then gives James the same information he just told Meg. I have every reason to go after them (Aus-twins) next week. If you keep Steve he will probably come after you for at least 1 more week. They told me I have to put you up if I stayed. Meg too but you’re obviously more the threat. I will own this whole thing saying I orchestrated it. James says damn. Johnny says if we don’t do something they are going to pick us off one by one. If you keep me I’m the only one that will go after them.
10:05pm James talks to Meg again in the bedroom. James says if Vanessa says the phrase at 5pm then its a go. Meg says I just want to talk to her, none of this other stuff. James says the problem is if Vanessa has information we were going to flip the vote they could use it against us. James says Johnny Mac said I am Steve’s target for at least 1 more week. Austin told him if he wins HOH to put me up. Meg asks really!? F**k! I hate this game. James says I knew it. You can only ride with a group for so long before they try and take you out. Austin joins them and asks if Johnny Mac has said anything? Meg says honestly Steve is acting weird like really sketchy. He hasn’t even come talk to us. Austin says Steve is probably just scared that everyone is going to flip things on him. Meg says Steve has been giving me a weird feeling ever since last night. Austin leaves. James says you saw how Austin was defending him (Steve). Steve is all out there with them laughing, talking with the twins. How many do we need 3 votes, you, me and Vanessa. Meg says walking on dirty water. James says it has to happen some time, we can’t stay clean the whole time. Meg says he (Steve) is up there 24/7.. we vote too. James says to talk to Vanessa about how she feels and if there was a final 5. See if she lies about it. Meg says we NEED Jackie or Becky to come back. Vanessa joins them. Meg says we’re about to blow everything up. I just have a bad feeling about Steve and don’t know if its the right move. James says there have been a lot of final 5 deals. Do we vote the person they want out?! I don’t know if we’re next. Vanessa says if they made a deal with you that doesn’t include me then I will do whatever you want. Meg tells Vanessa about the final 5 Johnny mac told them about. Vanessa says if you guys tell me they cut me out of Brass Tacks.. Meg says this was last week. I don’t know. Steve doesn’t care at all, he is like I got it. Meg says Steve asked for my vote one and that’s it. If we keep him he is going to do what ever they want. Liz joins them and asks what going on. Meg says Johnny is campaigning and Steve hasn’t said a word to me. Why does that make me mad! I am pissed about Steve.
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10:25am Austin tells Steve that Meg is a little angry that you don’t talk to her any more. Steve says okay. Austin says if you want to make her compute any way that we’re not working together. I’m sure its something that Johnny Mac said to them. Steve heads downstairs. Austin says I asks if Johnny Mac was campaigning and they just changed the subject. Julia talks about how she saw James and Johnny Mac talking. What did they say about Steve? Austin says that they’re worried about Steve and he isn’t talking to them.
10:35pm – 10:50am HOH room – Julia says that if Meg wants to start sh*t like this. .. Okay bit*h your a$$ is going up! She told me that Johnny Mac is campaigning and that Steve hasn’t said a word to me. Austin says tell them I don’t know what Johnny Mac’s campaign is but he told us that he is coming after you guys because you can’t be trusted. ..because you took out his boy Clay. Steve joins them. Julia asks I don’t know why they’re scared of you. They are mad at you because you haven’t campaigned to them. Steve says I just didn’t want to be too aggressive with them. Steve asks do I do it now .. or after? Liz says no not now.. after. Austin join them and tells Steve to do it after. Get into your corner. Whatever Johnny told them must have been compelling which is why he waited till now to tell them.
Vanessa joins them and tells Steve they are worried you are going to go after them (Meg and James). So you need to tell them you’re not. Austin says hint that you’re coming after me. Vanessa says I will tell you guys everything they say.
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10:50am Comic bedroom – James tells Johnny you dropped a bomb on us. Johnny says if Vanessa isn’t on board then don’t do it. I’ve tried to make it as risk free as possible for all of you. I will own it all and if we don’t win HOH then I will tell them to nominate me. Sit down in the POV and campaign for to be voted out. If Steve stays and one of you don’t win HOH then one of you will be going.
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VANESSA YOU TWAT. THIS IS YOUR BEST CHANCE. SAVE JOHNNYMAC. I would fucking love to see Steve blindsided tonight. Do you really think Austwins / FingerBangBunch will take you to the end, Vanessa? Blindside them here, get JMac on your team, get rid of them, and make it to the end.
This is exactly what I wanted this season. I have no idea who will go tonight and the returning player might turn the balance of power in the house.
It’s great to see Jmac campaign. And what he said was both compelling, and logical. And, honestly, it IS Vanessa’s best chance.
Which is why it won’t work.
This is a cast of idiots. James and Meg finally clue in – too late.
I’m going to sing and dance if i’m wrong; but i’m probably not.
And it isn’t because i’m a genius – i just have no faith in Vanessa.
Did Vanessa bring enough mascara
OMG WHAT THE F IS WRONG WITH YOU VANESSA
YOU RUIN EVERYTHING AGAIN
I HOPE YOU’RE JUST PLAYING STEVE
BUT I DOUBT YOU’RE GONNA FLIP TRASHNESSA
JMAC! Yes..go for it. James/Meg it’s your best bet. But Scaressa knows she can control, or thinks, she can control/dominate Steve more. Hope they get her vote and turn this house around. Please Jackie/Becky get back in and raid Austwins out, then Scaressa. GO JMAC. It’s about time. AND PRODUCTION..STAY OUT OF IT..WE WANT AUS/TWINS BROKEN UP.
Relax People. Vanessa will get called to D.R. and they will explain it to her. Whichever way she votes ,she will be assured that she will be safe next week. Production will give us good drama. The subtitle this week is “save the Goblins”. F3 Van, Meg, Julia. Winner….Meg! Bang!
Jmac is finally playing the game! C’mon Vanessa, take the bait!! You can’t go all the way with Twinstin, and you can take them out with the goblins and returner!! (in which case I hope they take YOU out!) Oh shite! I really hope this happens!! but, alas, stupid is as stupid does, and if this season remains on the line it has been on, Steve goes out and…..boring
I believe Vanessa is done with Steve and the Austwits if she can get Jmac to stay but she can’t reveal her cards too much as she will be continuing on in the game. I think she is blowing smoke up Steve ass to cover or own if he stays. I think she will vote Jmac if meg and James do. This will be good tonight!
So why is Van running up to the HOH room to tell Austin everything? I thought she was smarter than this. She should be rethinking after being told she was the target for 2 weeks.
Great post, you understand the game. People have to say things to cover themselves IN CASE things do not go as planned. Vanessa went to Johnny first, to ask him to work with her. She knows what needs to be done. I only hope that MEG and JAMES go through with it. Things will get interesting if they do! 5 against 3, let the game begin!
Shut up as if you’re the only one – the nerve
Not a Vanessa fan but I think this may have been her plan all along because not only did Steve betrayed her so did Austin & the twins Fingers Crossed. This is her way of flipping the house
Get a frickin backbone Meg and James.. For Pete’s sake they have to run EVERYTHING by Vanessa. If they keep Steve, they deserve to be picked off one by one.
It’s not that they have to run everything by Vanessa dumb dumb it’s that unless Vanessa agrees to the plan they wont have the votes anyway. Julia/Liz are voting to keep STeve 100%, James and Meg are on the fence but inorder to keep Jmac they would need Vanessas vote so they have to discuss it with her because the two of them together dont have th votes. Youre saying James, the dude that went against and blind-sided the strongest duo in the house when no one else would, has no backbone? ok…..
First of all, don’t call me dumb dumb! Second, YES i get that BUT they don’t know how to negotiate with Vanessa.. they are both easily swayed by her! END OF STORY!!!!!!!!!!!
They can’t flip it without Vanessa’s vote. JMACK would have to have THREE votes to stay.
Can’t believe you got so many thumbs up. They need 3 votes so ya they kinda have to get Vanessa’s vote which Johnny said he’s pretty sure he could get.
I got so many thumbs up because I’m AWESOME!!!!!! 🙂
Vanessa the rat, hope she cries when she gets evicted
Relax, see what’s she’s doing first. She may be scheming something.
If not, and she does that, then yes, she’ll be a rat. Lol
How could someone be a rat if they share information with the people they’ve been in an alliance with since week two? A rat would be if she shared information about her alliance with the turd logs floating downstairs. Do you even brain?
“do you even brain” LOL I love when somebody gets excited and says something like that or something like “your the worst speller dumy!!!” …sorry just LOL
omg just realized your name too XD
You obviously don’t understand the context.
[Hint: Google ‘ do you even lift ‘]
Are you kidding? Using a noun as a verb is hysterical. I feel sorry that you had to type out that whole message, spelling things all terrible just because you have zero sense of sarcasm. Also, relax, typos happen – nothing to bunch your panties about. Do you even humor?
Only really old people and people living under a rock don’t know about the meme that Smart Guy was referencing. Do you even internet?
Van, you’re doomed one way or the other unless you win HOH. I want Jackie to come back, then 2 alliances: Jackie, Meg, James and Johnny Mac VS Austin Liz Julia and Van. 4 v 4
Let’s get ready to RUUUUUUMBLE
I hope the plan works out and Steve goes, otherwise the rest of the season will be a little predictable. Austwits final 3 should be on everyone’s mind. The house been protecting them for over half the season, cmon now make a nice on them already. Vanessa, James, whoever comes back and Jmac could wreck shit. Time to end Summer Camp.
Could we call that alliance the Counselors? Kicking the kids outta camp!!!
I would chuckle if Steve got voted out and Becky lost the returning juror comp. Steve with Becky in the jury house would be his worst nightmare.
Pleeeeeeease, Meg, James and Vanessa… Vote to keep him and get rid of these gross Austwins.
I cannot keep up with all the flip flops. Has there ever been a group of three (four with Vanessa) that has been so inept at making a decision and sticking with it this late in the game? I can’t believe they have made it as far as they have. Well, that might apply to all that are left really. The middle part of this season was so good but it’s just gone downhill so fast. My secret summer fun has become a total bummer. Please let the returning HG shake it up and go after the Austwins. Even if they team up with Vanessa (who I cannot believe would let a solid group of 3 who will be loyal to each other before her get this far).
Hells yes!! I hope to god they turn the tables tonight and make things interesting again!
Finally!! Switch this up….pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!
PLEEEEeeezzzzuhh!
Jmac, James, Meg and Vanessa could have a really good thing going…….but Vanessa’s gonna f*ck it all up! Stupid biaaatch!!
I think smeg will stuff it up by saying something stupid and jwack will be out.
Go Johnny Mac! Playing the game now, hope its not too late…. Drag that Vanessa is the swing vote.
My daughter rocks, loyal to the end.
My question to you all is should I get the Porsche or the Mercedes? Convertible of course!
Bye Jmac
I’m afraid both of those choices are to high brow for you. Why don’t you ask her for a nice bus pass so you can get out of the trailer park from time to time?
She is playing one of the best games in BB history. Can i get her autograph somehow? Please!!
Don’t you mean “My daughter” ??
Come on. Vanessa is only the villain because we love to root for the underdog. who left in the house deserves the money more than her?. If you disagree, try posting a reason rather than being lazy and stubborn and just thumbing down.
This is good! Good job jMACK. I guess now we’ll see if Vanessa is really ready to move away from austwits. I’m afraid she won’t do it bc that will draw the line right before a jury member comes back. Please DO IT VANESSA!!!!
I want Johnny to staaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy
Vanessa you better vote with the goblins and keep him
She’ll analyze who the jurers would side with if they return, and if the odds are for the goblins and against the austwins, she’ll flip the house with the goblins, go after the austwins, then reform alliances after. Of course her analysis will have to take into account the austwins + steve vs the goblins + jmac. I think her smart move is to sent steve to jury, and hope the odds are in favor of the returning jury member siding with the goblins against the austwins. In both groups there is a bimbo she could take to the end for f2 (meg or julia) so that’s a wash.
DR must have got in John’s ear. Too bad Meg & James could not keep lips zipped until John talked to Van. If Van is onboard with Austwits who cares who the goblins vote out. They have the votes to keetttttttttp Steve. Jmac waited too late. Van won’t cross Austwi
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Dammit Vanessa!!! Stop protecting Austwins! Why are you playing for 4th place?
First of all…Vanessa would be a garden variety IDIOT not to flip
If She aligned with Goblins and JMac..They outnumber Austins gang 4-3…And there’s a good chance Becky or Jackie return..and Austin cant play HOH..They could break up the trio,,and if they dont they will get run over by them
On a side note..I think everyone knows someone like the twins..They are attractive until they get within earshot..Then You see how NASTY, TRASHY CLUELESS they are
HOH possibilities…
Worst case…Either twin..They target returning HG and Goblins
Vanessa….She would target returning HG
Steve……..Will do what His Handlers tell Him to
Meg,,,The Mayan Calendar predicts in the year 4024 She will win a comp but if somehow She did Tonight, I see Steve or Twins as target
James….I think He would bust up Austwins
Best case………JMac…If He survives or comes back from Jury..Austwins=Target if Vanessa flipped for Him She’d be safe, if not She would be target
Of the Jury Members Shelli is worst case,,She would align w Vanessa unless Becky and Jackie won Her over,,but She would take James out…Jackie would take out Steve…Becky would probably take out Twins,,She said She’d actually consider wqorking w Vanessa
Jmac is done. Steve and juror go up next week, one of. Them goes home. Week after juror/Steve go up Vs Meg (even if James wins). It’s not what I want. It’s what’s going to happen. Don’t shoot the Messenger.
Too little, too late, JMac. Steve has solidified this week, and JMac knows this. Vanessa is safe for this week and probably next week, especially as far as who goes on the block vs replacement nominee, so there is not reason for her to take out Steve. The statistical odds are Jackie or Becky (or JMac) will return, and production could give one of them safety for a week, but I doubt it. If Shelli returns, there is no way they will give her safety for a week. JMac is not telling them a single thing they don’t know, or suspect, has happened. Vanessa will not flip, she just got back in good with her alliance. I am glad JMac at least tried today, just to create some drama since its been a boring week.
If Vanessa doesn’t flip now, I don’t think she will win this game.
I agree but you have to look at it from her perspective. She just smoothed things out with austwits, and going against them would wreck that right before a jury member comes back.
If she keeps Johnny that’s only one person. Staying with them means she has 3-4 people if you include Steve. Now if james and Meg would forge some sort of alliance with her and jmac today, I think she would be more prone to doing it.
Either way, I still hope she does, but she has been saying all along she can’t mess her game up for one person and then risk being at odds with 4 people. If only the twins would switch.
She has to know that the Austwins would be a target over her. So if she was to keep JMac, then as long as Steve doesn’t return, it should be 5 vs 3. I am sure she should manipulate a couple of the 5 to help her get to the finals.
I personally think Vanessa is setting James and Meg up here. She won’t vote out Steve, because she has J/Mac set up if he returns. She is trying to get Austwins to turn on James and Meg, and what better way than that. J/Mac has put the bug in Meg/James ear that they are targets to go on the block in case James wins today. If they do, they will go after Austwins and Vanessa is OK. This way Vanessa comes off clean, and her and Steve will be good for next week along with whoever remains of the Austwins
Awww, yes you’re right. I was too excited to think it through lol. But this is exactly what she’s doing.
But can she not see that she is the 4th wheel with the Austinktwins? She could RULE the goblins, or at least THINK she could. She has to think that at some point she’s gotta split with those three. If not, she really isn’t playing for the money, in which case she really IS delusional! Why come on the showthen? oh wait, she was planted by Grodner, that’s right
I dont think she is trying to trick them. That is too risky for her. Austwins have proved to Van how loyal they are to James and Meg… The austwins and the goblins never made a deal to vote out steve definitely, and james and meg would squeal 100%. All fingers would point at Van. Everyone would be upset with her, and her “integrity” game will go out the window. It is riskier to do that, then to actually flip, because she has reasons to flip.
Just love Julia’s power trip about Meg. Seriously? You’re going to put someone out? You haven’t won anything either you fruit loop dingus! I hope JMac’s plan works. I might even respect Vanessa a little bit if she has the nads to actually go through with it. Now THAT would be a show worth watching and I would have to get the feeds to watch the fallout from it if it actually happens. Would be nice to have a close vote for a change!
OMG …. it’s not often that I literally laugh out loud!!! THANK YOU, love any human that can make me laugh like that!!! Just me
so Vanessa is in the position where Austin and the twins won’t take her to the end. She’s also in the position where meg james and john won’t take her to the end.
it’s good for the viewers that hate the austwin alliance if she flips sides.
is it good for vanessa? going from the bottom of an alliance to the bottom of an alliance…
neither is a clear winner for her.
But if she keeps JMac and Shelli comes back then she could form a pretty good group of 3. Austin can’t play for HOH and Julia (and Meg) can’t win a thing. They could be in a good position to challenge the Austwins. She HAS to know 4th in a group of 4, right?
the magic number for votes next week is three.
with a returning juror, the Goblins + Jmac+returning juror already have three if they win hoh and Jmac is in the house.
the returning juror will have told the alliance that even though she’s hated, everyone on jury thinks Vanessa has played a great conniving strategy. If a goblin side wins hoh, they don’t need Vanessa to control the vote. She will be on the block. within two weeks she will be history.
vanessa’s wearing the sunglasses…i think she’s flippin’
Isn’t this the theory people were ridiculing Vanessa for just 4 days ago? She was supposedly a psychotic maniac for thinking Team Feces would band together to pick Austwin apart instead of continuing to float in the toilet.
WooHoo! Go Johnny Mac!!!
Jmac fans say Vanessa’s best game move is to flip
Steve fans say Vanessa’s best game move is to not flip
From what we gather before the feeds drop Vanessa will not flip her vote.
I am a huge Vanessa fan and I think the flip is her best interest. The biggest criticism I have with Vanessa and several other houseuests is she does not play her best interests… get Steve out, get the numbers and take out the Austwins…. it reallyy is her best move.
Will she???? I hope so, but she probably won’t.
Not a Vanessa fan but I think You are right,,,It seems every week We get a glimmer of hope for a shake up but they stick with the mundane, I would be shocked if JMAC stays,,I hope He does though
Simon,,Strategically speaking..Who do You think She should vote out ?
I can’t make the call this time around.. too many unknowns. On one side they gotta turn on the twins and Austin eventually. The flip side of that Vanessa has been working with Austin/twins a long time she’ll probably make more enemies turning on them.
There’s a lot of pros and cons for both Arguments.
I think this is the main reason John waited to start campaigning. He waited until Vanessa, Austin, and the twins couldn’t debate the dead horse into mush. He dropped a logical reason to keep him, made his pitch and got out. There’s not a lot of intricacy involved in the flip and he paints them all as getting a good deal.
If he stays and anyone other than Steve comes back he’s in a great spot.
Interesting, Simon… Steve has fans?
ITA that Vanessa’s not flipping
James n meg just tell vanessa u have an allience with austwins to get van out b4 each other n that hasnt changed n she will flip on a dime… operation save jmac. Steve needs to go n some1 else come back… u can flip van… come on van flip!!!
I can’t believe Vanessa doesn’t see that she’s the fourth Wheel! Why would Austin take her to F2? Why would a twin take her to F2? Come on Vanessa! It’s time to turn on them. Please production, talk to her!
Maybe because van has promised them all cars and stuff if they take her?
It really is within Vanessa best interests to take this deal. Get Steve out and team up with JMac… if Shelli comes back Vanessa will be filled on all of the Austwins Vanessa crap talk, especially if she is now working with JMac something Shelli wanted for a long time.
If Jackie comes back Steve is screwed by that also. It is believable that JMac wanted Vanessa as a target and Steve instead wanted Jackie to go na viewed her as a personal threat… so everything that was said by Johnny Mac about what really went down in the storage room makes perfectly good sense.
How hope Vanessa does fem up with the Goblins and JMac and gets Steve out then the targets are the Austwins because the thing she needs to wake up to the most is how much that alliance has screwed her in the game. All of her worst moves have been to protect those three in the game…. a mistake Derrick would have never made (love him or hate him Derrick is like Dan he could play all of them and put all of the pieces in place and neither would scarifies their games for players like the Austwins.)
Getting Steve out could switch alliances and completely reboot the whole game. I am really hoping this plays out…. because I don’t hate or dislike Vanessa, she is still one of my favorite players in the game.
Austin: I feel pity for him because when this all over he is going to be shattered also the way people are going to talk about him are really going to hurt his feelings. I can not even think about what his family and friends are going to say. His fantasy of them loving Liz, lets be honest if he was my brother I would say terrible things about her and call him a dumbs meat shield.
Liz: Is the Seasons Ho… prt of me wants to feel sorry about what is waiting for her outside… but she should have been very aware how her bed hopping girl, that is playing a sap for money is going to look.
Julia: The way post Season is going to effect her is she is going to defend Liz and what he did 24/7.
Vanessa: She will come out unscathed… out of all the houseguests she will have the easiest time in the outside world next to Meg.
James: I don’t know part of me finds him disgusting and another part of me sees him as that friend we have that is disgusting like that but we still like him. I hope everything works out for him. James should do party and camping trips… party trips. I think he wold be good at it.
Meg: Next to Vanessa she will have the easiest trip into the outside world. Other than some teasing she will get… she really didn’t do anything bad in he game. Other than being bad in the game.
Johnny Mac: He is the breakout star… Johnny Mac comes out of this in the Best Place.
Steve: I don’t know it is a coin toss… he won’t be as loved as Ian Terry but he won’t be as hated as Aaryn Gries… for that matter as much as Amanda… Season 15 really had the most hated Guests ever. He could be devastated but he could just go back to same old same old.
Wtf is wrong with Meg?!?!? She actually just let them know that JMac is campaigning???? Do this dumb ass idiot not know how to keep that mouth of hers shut? She just sank JMac and James game. Fucking waste of space!!
If Vanessa does flip and go with John, Meg and James, it will look good on her. She knows that Johnny Mac is a lose cannon, and will do whatever whenever for no reason at all. Vanessa, (mark my words) will be the main target for a backdoor if John wins HOH this week. People have forgotten, JohnMac cannot stand her. He can promise whatever will make her keep him…till she has kept him, and then the gloves are off. He already told her that she had done him wrong more than anyone else in the house and that he wanted her out. I also think that no amount of talking from her will change his mind if he does go this way. He alreadyd told Meg this morning that he wanted Vanessa out first, and if this happens I will be thrilled to bits because she got played instead of playing everyone else.
Jmac finally is getting the right people in the right place at the right time – BUT – relying on Vanessa will probably wreck this fragile house of cards.
Steve is useless – a boy being manipulated and as Jmac put it so well, their “lap dog.” I hope Steve has access to a good therapist once he sees how he has been portrayed in this game.
Meg tells them. seriously. I just can’t deal with her being so darn clueless
on another note, WELCOME TO BB17 non DR version of J-MAC!!!!
James, you better get meg to vote your way, this is the GAME. if you vote out MAC, you are screwed. if you keep MAC, Austin/Twins are in trouble. do not make the mistake of voting out MAC to please an expiring HOH reign
Vanessa is going to see how close she has been to a target these last 3 weeks and realize this is where she made her biggest mistake. I’m not saying she won’t still be a target, but she has more of a chance to infiltrate the James, Meg, Jmac, and returning juror group than with Austwins.
It looks like Vanessa will be content with 3rd or 4th place. I think she wants to help the Austwins finish off the other side of the house even knowing that she will be targeted afterwards. But she can then leave the game preaching about her “integrity” and how she stayed loyal to her main alliance until the bitter end. I think she cares about that more than winning at this point (she freely admits she doesn’t need the money).
If Vanessa doesn`t vote Steve out, she will probably ruin her game. Meg, James, returnee have to win HOH or one of them is going home. Once it is down to 7 people, if anyone other than Meg James or returnee wins HOH, Austwins can vote out whoever they like, they have the majority votes. They will steamroll to the end unless someone takes out Liz next week. If they pick off Meg, James and the returnee, that will leave a solid block with Austwins against Vanessa and Steve. At that point, Vanessa and Steve would have to alternate winning all of the remaining competitions and they would have to be the ones to take out Austwins. Even if Vanessa gets to final 4 with Austwins, her game is over that week unless she wins HOH or POV. Even if she manages to stay safe that week, in final 3 nobody will take her, she would have to win the final HOH. Liz and Julia would take each other, and they would take Austin over Vanessa because they would beat him. The only thing that makes sense is for Vanessa to vote with the goblins and keep JMac. JMac is a good person to keep this week because he has relationships with Shelli, Steve and Becky, and Jackie would not target him, so for him it doesn`t matter who comes in, he can work with any of them and build a bridge to include Vanessa to take out the twins. Vanessa didn`t think it through when she decided to protect the twins and help Julia enter the house. Yeah, for a few weeks it was a vote on their side, but at this stage in the game it is 2 numbers standing in her way, and they expect her loyalty, so she can`t put them up unless she is willing to own the move, which she never is. If the twins had both been evicted before week 5, they wouldn`t have needed 2 double evictions this season. The twin twist is going to be the downfall of several people`s games. I hope Vanessa listens to reason and keeps JMac tonight.
I almost think it would be easier for James and Meg to negotiate keeping JMAC with the twins than with Vanessa… they are dumb as sh1t and Vanessa can never make up her damn mind!
Ugh little chance Vanessa is flipping here but she should!
This is a very extremely important eviction so it doesn’t surprise me that everyone is very afraid to say anything for fear it will get to the wrong ears and at the same time you have to remain on positive terms with the Austwins because there are 2 of them playing for the next HOH. From here on out this game is dangerous for anyone in the house. Beginning next week, if you want to stay, you gotta play. Lines will be drawn tonight after the next HOH is named. I just hope that Liz or Julia do not win tonight’s HOH and if someone else wins HOH, that they go after the Austwins and not waste it on Vanessa. They can get her out down the road. Best bet would be to evict Liz next.
I totally agree! Although, for entertainment purposes, I have to admit I would love for Austin and Julia to be on the block at the same time. That would make for some good television!
In that case, it would be even better if Liz wins the veto and then has to decide to take Austinky or her foul-mouthed sister off the block. I have to agree, that would be EPIC to watch!
This has been the WORST season EVER of BB. This crap needs to be revamped or taken off the air. Most the people picked for this season have been worthless pieces of shit. Anyone who was remotely likable were voted off within the first 5 weeks. If J-Mac goes tonight I am out. Fire all the crack smoking, coke snorting, 20 year old produces and hire people with some real intelligence to put this show together.
YOU SUCK CBS!
You are way into this show… you should go outside for a walk or something.
I agree that they need to revamp, but the cast is good and since BOTB ended, it`s good game. I blame BOTB for ruining the season, and Shelli, Clay and Vanessa for thinking two twins in the house was a good idea. Without the BOTB, things would have been different. I do wish they would revamp it so the HG don`t know what`s coming. For too many seasons now, they know when DE is coming, they know when OTEV, counting, days, morph, endurance is coming and they prepare for it. I was watching season 7 again and there was a great competition with an asteroid, where people take aim and knock people out of the competition. It is a great competition because it shows who is with who and who is after who. They need more of those kinds of competitions because it makes people show their cards. They also need to just get rid of HN and make them compete to eat. In BBUK, they have to compete to earn an amount of money for groceries, and then they have to make their shopping list based on their budget. It can cause a lot of bickering, and it would be more fun to watch than people rotating HN duty.
I would like to also see them have to perform tasks to unlock the hot tub, to earn a microwave, etc. They did this in early seasons, I remember cast getting excited to have an iron or a toaster oven.
I also think they need to keep track of offenses like causing fish, not cleaning up after themselves, taking too long to go to DR when called and their punishment could be cleaning the bathroom, clearing out the fridge, washing all of the bedding and towels, sweeping and mopping, preparing dinner. The reason why the season falls into summer camp mode is there is too much down time. Make them do stuff, make them keep the place clean and tidy, make them do stupid tasks for no particular reason but make them think it matters.
Chloe, I think your ideas would make this show so much fun to watch. As for myself, I’m done with pot ball and the headband game…Really is that all you ppl could come up with. ZZZZZzzzzsnoozefest
let’s get real.
If Vanessa actually flipped, would all of the Vanessa hate stop? not for a second.
If she flipped it would be a case of “ha ha dumb b!t(h, now stab her in the back James!” to a resounding 85 thumbs up and 4 thumbs down (2 of them objecting to the term b!t#h).
Comments that it is in Vanessa’s best interest are crap. Most of the people writing them couldn’t care less about Vanessa’s best interest. They just want to give Jmac and James more of a fighting chance, because let’s face it, being Meg’s ally is like jumping out of a plane with an anchor instead of a parachute.
At least the one’s that are angry at Vanessa for not jumping at the chance to help JMac and James and Meg because they are fans of Jmac, James and Meg are being honest. The ones saying it’s best for Vanessa’s game? stop. it’s embarrassing.
Vanessa flips. Vanessa saves Jmac. Juror returns. 50-70 % juror wants Vanessa gone first. James and Meg want Vanessa gone, she’s not a goblin and they don’t need her as a number anymore. John wants Vanessa gone (come on, he does). Now Austin and the twins want Vanessa gone. Again. How does that help Vanessa?
Hey thats’ the game. Eventually they all turn on each other and if she gets played and burned by Jmac so much the better.
hey, you’re being honest. Cool. I appreciate that.
You want her to flip because it’s best for Jmac.
You aren’t saying it’s best for Vanessa’s game, when as soon as the juror returns if the goblins are in power, Vanessa becomes superfluous because the returning juror, plus two of Jmac Meg and james is the three votes needed to evict, and she no longer has the option of being with the Austwits and Steve as a five block.
Vanessa stays with Austwits and steve, they control the vote even if two of them end up on the block. At least that’s a fighting chance.
Vanessa flips, she’s on the block regardless of which side wins because she’s outlived her usefulness to one group, and betrayed the other.
It does help Vanessa. If anyone except Steve comes back, they all realize that the dynamics of the house have changed since they were evicted. Vanessa is no longer the most dangerous person in the house. Liz is the one that needs to go if Austwins is to be broken up. Vanessa can`t win unless Austwins is broken up and she can`t do it herself. She needs someone to do it for her. If Shelli comes back, she could work with Shelli and Jmac. Suddenly she is in a solid 3 person alliance against Austwins and Meg and James as pawns, votes or targets.
If Becky comes in and finds JMac working with Vanessa and the Austwins as the strongest alliance in the house, I think she would bury her Vanessa revenge for a week or two. JMac could talk her down. If Jackie comes back, she will also want to put up Liz with Vanessa, but Liz would be the one going home because everyone is realizing that Austwins need to be broken up. The only scenario that is bad for Vanessa is Steve coming back into the house because that bridge would be burned and she would have no choice but to work with Meg and James if she wants to make the end.
All around, keeping JMac is best for everyone except Austwin and Steve`s games.
Go on ahead van flip on them . do James/megs/ jmacs dirty work and watch how fast they turn on you. You won’t have any anyone. Whomever comes back might side with you for a week but after they’ve gotten you to eat your own …they will come after you. I will laugh. I don’t care who leaves this week. Hope its Vanessa next week.
Then how does she win? Aus takes liz, liz takes julia, julia takes liz and they like Meg and James BC they have more fun with them, BRASS TACKS.
A they never mention Van being anywhere past final 6 in their diary rooms. Van is doing Austwins dirty work by getting rid of all of their possible opposition. At least flipping gives her a solid chance at getting into a final 4 that she could possibly manipulate and have a fighting chance in.
James and meg are very stupid. Austin won’t go after them as fast as Vanessa will. I can hardly wait until those idiots are gone. Pervert and ditz!
If this goes through, I predict the next person to go will be Austin. Vanessa want him gone as she will be thinking she can swoop up the twins with him gone. James will be hoping Liz will come to him as her next meat shield if Austin goes. By her previous actions I wouldn’t be surprised either, after all she first picked Jace then Jeff and finally Austin.
Can Jackie come back?
Can James win HOH?
Is this too much to ask for.
Austin or Liz have to leave next week!!
Wow, I really want to root for the Goblins, but Meg is such an idiot!!!!! Why would you not try to flip the vote & get Steve out?!?! She thinks Johnny Mac is lying to her about all the info he gave her today lmao she deserves to go on the block next week. It’s going to be hilarious when Steve wins HOH & he puts up James/Meg. I was really hoping a big move would be made tonight too, but nope. Sorry Johnny Mac.
NOTHING in this game makes me happier than Meg crying. So let’s get this waste of air up on the block and make this dumb twat cry.
last week I called Austin’s HOH this week I am getting a sick feeling Steve will win HOH
FML 🙁