| POV Holder: | Vanessa | POV Competition | Aug 22nd |
| POV Used | No | POV Ceremony | Aug 24th |
| HOH | Austin | Next HOH | Aug 27th |
| Original Nominations: | Steve and Jmac | ||
| After POV Nominations: | Steve and Jmac | ||
| Have Nots | No have nots this week | ||
12am HOH room – Liz says he (Austin) his so annoying! Julia says you get too mad, like I feel like he is starting to get annoyed that you always get mad at him. Liz says whatever, get mad at me because I give zero f**Ks!! Julia says get mad and get over it. Liz says he gets so nasty! Did you not see who mean he gets?! Julia says we were being kind of annoying. Liz says no I wasn’t, I was picking my nails the whole time. The one time I try to help him (in chess) he yells at me! I haven’t tried to help him at all!!! Ughh.. so stupidddddddaaahahahhhhhggghhhh! Julia says I want to know when I was in the shower, what did Meg and James say? Like were they trying to make an argument against Steve? Liz says they are more threatened by Steve but Steve is better for our game so whatever! We said that Johnny Mac has more connections with the jury and… (They hear Austin yelling and go to see what’s going on.) Austin says I got him (Steve) in checkmate. Julia says oh what a coincidence you get him in checkmate when we’re both gone!! Austin says of course because you were doubting me the whole time! Steve says I think you got me. I got cocky and you got me. Steve says he is heading to bed, its a big day for me tomorrow. Liz says last night up here! Austin says UhHhuh.. this is going to be a tricky week! Liz says I know I’m scared! I was scared last week too so f**k it! Austin says if the wrong person wins it’s going to be really tough to make any strategies. Liz says I know. Austin says we’ll have to hope for the best.
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Steve tells Liz we’re on a TV show that’s on a parking lot. Liz says thank you Steve. That does make me feel a little bit better. Steve says like seriously we’re playing a game of monopoly. Liz says that’s a great way to look at it, I love monopoly. I love this experience. Steve says my motivation for coming here had zero to do with the money. Liz says right mine neither. Seriously! Steve says my though was hey, this is my shot to do something that not a lot of people get to do. Liz says I know, like I am even considering getting a big brother tattoo after this. Me and Julia want to get a twin thing like a key. Steve says that’s a very common thing to do. Liz heads back up stairs.
12:15am – 1:40am HOH bedroom – Austin and Liz head to bed. Austin says that Johnny Mac went rogue and now doesn’t even talk to us. Liz says yeah but we kind of made it hard for him to talk to us. Austin says well he kind of makes it hard to talk to him. Liz says I know that’s why he should go! So awkward! We’ve never got along with him in this game. It sucks that its the week before jury because he could very well come back. Austin says I just a little scared for tomorrow. Liz says I know. It just sucks because 2 out of 4 people are coming after me and you I bet! Austin says yup! Liz says Becky and Him (Johnny Mac). Austin says you just have to try an win again. Liz says I want Julia to win. Austin says if its down to you and here, then throw it to her. I would rather have you guys win it then Meg or James. They might throw it, they might feel safe with everyone. Austin says Jackie and Shelli might not be gunning for us. Liz says things have worked out for us in this game too so we can’t be too mad. Austin agree and says just relax and let it happen. Austin says just tell Johnny Mac we’re making the decision as a group and that Meg and James are all voting the same. Liz says we’ll have to tell him because no one likes to be left in the dark with someone coming back. We just have to tell him we need to talk to Meg and James one more time. Austin says maybe Meg will win one. Liz says I hate how we always have to tell them. Like there’s no element of surprise any more. Has it always been like that? Austin says they’ve always pretty much known. Liz says he is just so two faced. He’s hated the whole game and now he’s dying for her. Like if he comes back he comes back he isn’t coming after Vanessa he is coming after us like we’re the bad guy. Austin says if you don’t win I am probably going home. Liz says don’t say that! Why would you say that! Liz starts studying the days events in the house.
12:35am – 1:50am Steve in the cabana room. Steve is whispering really quietly. First a huge thank you to my family. I don’t want to seem fake that’s the thing. I have a minute, a whole minute! That is a lot longer than I thought I would have. Looks at the camera and asks are you enjoying me rehearsing my speech. Not rehearing but kind of writing in my head. I want to say the names its what’s thrown them. You’re making me really uncomfortable that you’re following me. Steve practices his speech and then comes back into the cabana room and asks the camera if it wants to hear his speech. They said I have a minute and this is exactly a minute .. I think.
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First off a huge thank you to my friends and family back home! Mon, Dad, + list of other names. Also a huge thank you to whoever helped get me to this point and help make this childhood dream come true. House guests when I walked in that front door 71 days ago I was as Zingbot pointed out a nerdy and socially awkward trombonist that loves his mom! Since then, I’ve had a lot of really cool experiences.. I’ve played my first game of spin the bottle, I did my first non-academic al-nighters, I’ve played my first game of truth or dare, I gave my first kiss in spin the bottle to Meg which is the single most awkward kiss she is ever going to have in her life! I want to thank you for not only being a part of this life long and life changing experience with me but also for being a part of this life changing, life altering experience for me. It has made me feel the most socially confident I have ever felt in my life! I really appreciate your votes tonight but I also understand you have to do what’s best for your game and I totally get that. But if I do walk out that door tonight despite all these experiences I am still going to walk out as a nerdy and socially awkward trombonist but now with a really cool new beard, a really cool new hair cut… I’ll be a semester behind in my degree but I’ll have a life long experience I’ll never forget so thank you.
He continues to practice it and changes parts here and there. He then heads to bed.
The kiss Steve is referring to in his speech:
Steve and Meg KISS
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PATHETIC SEASON !!!!
Just because the season isn’t going the way you want doesn’t make it pathetic, Last 2 seasons were pathetic due to racists and people that didn’t know how to play the game (and BoB). Jmac got himself in this position by throwing one too many comps
The Season hasn’t gone as I hoped – and that part is fine – that is part of the game. Its the fact that people don’t play as individuals anymore! I mean in previous seasons HOH made nominations (And yes others had input) but the house then didn’t HAVE to vote unanimously. Not everyone had a say in if the POV was going to be used. I mean come on they actually said they would play rock paper scissors to decide who the house sent home?!? It is a rather pathetic season. I miss the old days when there was shock. When people questioned who voted which way. When EVERY vote was not Unanimous. When people actually had backbones!
Stop blaming commenters who have an opinion. Vanessa blames the casting this season as full of recruits that don’t know how to play the game and are cowards going along like sheep to be safe. She has said it’s all social, not strategic and passive agressive backstabbing. Add drugging tantrums, cheating, bribes and Production that creates & characters scripts for recruits from Tinder, Bad Girls Club, CBS shows and bars, makes for a boring waste of time between mean spirited actor wannabes battling for airtime. It’s a bad sitcom, unfunny, fantasy editing, and no games and contestants who aren’t even there for the money, duh.
Liz asked Asstink does Production always get the eviction decision a day ahead? It isn’t a surprise like advertised, it isn’t the unexpected, if the fairies are organizing decision meetings and the HOH reports the eviction, when they’re not even supposed to get a vote! Production demands house votes, the independent live secret vote is a scam.
You can still watch it if you want to. Lots of people don’t like what’s is become. And throwing in an undercover detective last year, a bribing con woman this year with a bunch of recruits who never saw the show is contrived for gullible chumps, just like Vanessa calls the gamblers she takes money from for a living. We don’t have to like getting had, we turn the channel.
I think this has been a really good season and with the evicted houseguest coming back tonight this episode should be really good. We are going to see a lot of promises made to the returning player and this next HOH will be critical to the balance of power in the house.
This has been my favorite season on the feeds since 11. The difference is season 11 had a weak end game I think bb17 is going to have a crazy a$$ end game.
This has been a fun season and it might get even better depending on who returns tonight.
Grease Meg and I am there! A little dab will do. I can find a use for her I am sure of it. I also have a spot for those red lips (no pre grease required)
Speaking of crazy a$$, fingers crossed on Jackie and Becky coming back in the house
I hope so too, Simon, but I am afraid that if the twins don`t get split up this week, we could see a finale with Liz, Austin and Meg which would suck as bad as Jordan, Gnat and Kevin. I agree though, best season since 11.
I have a feeling this is going to get really interesting…as soon as the trio is in danger of eviction …whoever does it just may win the half mill…
I’m thinking the endgame will depend on someone going after the twins, Liz in particular, this week or next.
The end game of this season is going to be terrible. One of the twins getting 500k makes me want to puke.
No doubt they will cry OOOOOOWWAH ITS ONLY 500KKKKKKKKUH ITS NOT ENOUGH STUUUUUUUPID BB.
I cant wait to see Van and Austin get evicted they will put on a show but that’s about it.
Liz says what everyone wise is saying. It’s a house vote because that’s the way Production drives it. Liz says, you mean Thursday evictions aren’t real? You had to tell Production who were voting for? We can’t make a deal with JMac? Austin outs over and over Production is calling for a decision he calls house meetings then reports house votes. How do you plot against HOH who has no vote, when he’s the one organizing meetings, leading discussion and reporting to Production?? There is no individual secret voting on fake live eviction Thursday, they high five and signal to each other all the way through taping and the illusion Diary Room hallway. The only live thing happening is the CBS audience and the staged evictee walking out.
What would happen if everyone were actually voting independently in secret? A real game. Reality. Now mob and production rules and Vegas and actor wannabes. It’s manipulation.
Fake made up just like Derek season…everytime that boy talked to the DR he sounded like he was reading a script…him being a cop I wonder if he had any dirt on anybody, producers basically said you come on the show you win..DEAL? Something had to happen that season was fake as hell. Andd the sad thing is some of you people actually bought that shit.
It really bothers me how evicting Jmac is sooooo personal. The austwits literally can’t think of a good reason to get rid of him to the point where they thought about doing rock, paper, scissors. And then they say they can’t have a conversation with him, like they’ve made thing so awkward that i don’t blame him. THEN WORST OF ALL, they say they can’t have fun with him. LIKE REALLY?!?! Like get over it. He doesn’t want to talk to your lame asses. This isn’t high school!!! Stop being jealous because you know he is more popular than you are.
I wanna like your comment so many times!
Good comments yes , but how they know he’s more popular. They think they are popular with all their tv time/ho-mance
I agree that they don’t know who’s most popular, but this isn’t about this… This is about making a decision based on who they have fun with. What a good strategy! Thumbs up Austwins!
Your right, my bad, I’ll go be go microwave my hot pockets now
The rock, paper, scissors thing reminded me of Donny’s Skittles ordeal last year. I wish they could go back to house guests voting for their own games instead of this “Whole house votes the same way” crap. I’m tired of the votes not even being close anymore. Why do they think they all have to vote together anyway??
THANK YOU!!!! I am glad I am not the only one sick of the players making it that all votes have to be Unanimous! What happened to playing your OWN game and not letting people railroad them! I miss the good ol’ days! lol
Like w.t.f is Austin thinking getting rid of the most popular guy? Like its soo personal! Like so what Steve doesn’t have an allies in jury and has been loyal to Austwins from the start. Like production should automatically give him a Veto because he is sooo loved by everyone outside of the house. Like who cares if he would probably give it to Austin because hes such a bad game player. Like ITS NOT FAAAAAAAIIIIR!
Like really? Like for real? Like OMG? Like are you from the valley also? Like you sound just like me. Like for sure!
Maybe, just maybe, they can’t think of a good reason to keep him around. He hasn’t worked with anyone in the house, he shuns ‘alliances’, the people you might say he was semi-close to are gone, so you might say he’s the kiss of death. Becoming a fan favorite by looking, acting, and talking weird seems to be a thing, but like Donny and Judd, being strange doesn’t automatically translate into good gameplay. All season he has just passively let things happen to him and now that he has to make moves on his own he doesn’t know what to do.
Thanks Simon and Dawg for posting all season.
I hope something happens to encourage interest in the rest of the season; but i am feeling like it is a lost cause today.
I am even tired of repeating how disgusting the loser Austin is, how the twins are vile and how i like Jmac the most.
For a season that started off so well, it sure went to shit.
When your criteria for voting is who you like spending time with over game play (not ven touching rock, paper and scissors) -well the game is pretty pathetic.
Dawg,
Any ideas on what the competition will be for the returning houseguests to return to the house?
I would hope that it would be some type of physical or question competition but I’m scared it will be a luck (crap shoot) comp like it was last season. I really dislike them having a luck based comp for someone returning .. it should be something that requires skill or knowledge so that whoever comes back has to prove they really want it more than the others.
I’m hoping for a physical comp…like you said, let’s see who really wants it.
Most likely physical that’s why there were no have nots this week they’re letting them eat like pigs
Vanessa said she “thinks” it will be a physical comp. I’m sure she drew that conclusion from something the fairies said.
Watching last night’s episode I think Austin’s playing a great game. He acts as if he doesn’t really care who his targets are but he has his targets and does not get manipulated.
I wish Vanessa would vote the way she wants to. She is disappointing me because after reading about her wanting final 2 with Jmac that I believe to be true (and vice versa) she only wants to do it with the girls. Why is she not looking at this strategically? Who is likely to win the next HOH? The twins (since Austin cannot play) or Jmac, Vanessa, James (leaving out Meg), returnee?
I hope Jmac’s last play is go to Meg and James and get their votes and tell Vanessa that she’s the swing vote and that if she wants to continue playing with him then prove it instead of covering her bases. Otherwise, when I return I’m going rogue.
I’m shocked to say it but Austin has really stepped up his game and along with Vanessa is running the house.
lol
Love Steve’s speech! Hope he doesn’t change it too much.
I promised Steve some “attention” if he wins HOH. I am sure I will have to go solo at first and then invite some friends. With Liz I invited everyone over and she still didn’t know we were there. (She has a big house!)
I love how high Dawg has shot up in the polls!
We need to be able to vote for one fav I cant pick three.
Crossing my fingers that James wins HOH tonight. He is the only one that would possibly shake things up…put up Austin and Liz with a possible back door/blindside to Vanessa.
Good move if James would put up Austin and Liz, but bad move to try and backdoor Vanessa the same week. If you put up Austin and Liz you have to make sure one of them goes. If you shift the plan to backdoor Vanessa then you just end up with all 3 of the Austwins safe AND pissed at you and you can’t compete for HOH. James is in good with them at the moment so might not be the best time to take that shot.
Yes. Put up Austin and Liz. If one of them come down, put up Julia. Either way that wod knock them down to a pair. Which is slightly better than a three way vote.
Preferably Liz goes home. She is the glue that holds the 3 together. Once she’s gone I think they would be pretty much dismantled.
Yes, unless Julia wins veto and pulls down Liz. Then you have to nominate someone else and you have to choose carefully because Austin has the twins votes to stay guaranteed. It could go badly.
Great speach!
I like Steve speech in he kind of has grown up in the house I’m glad he sees that.
I’m confused, is Steve going to target the goblins or go after scamper squad? When he campaigned to scamper squad he said he’d get the goblins out but the opposite to the goblins
I’m 99.9% positive that Steve’s targets will be James and Meg. Steve will also target Jackie or Becky.
I hope it is James. They need to burn that cat hat and Vanessa’s green topper.
Therefore proving Steve is an idiot, in this game anyway, but not more than anyone else in the game. Maybe it’s because we as outside the housers don’t really “get” the dynamic of what is happening in there. How is it that Austink, twins and V have gotten their way….. EVERY WEEK!? Mind boggling, really, if you think these HG’s are not smart enough to see that the numbers have dwindled down to where no one has a chance except for the 3 headed snake. This will be the final week to be able to change that… Pleeezuh let it happen!!
Is anyone else annoyed with the goblins? Like, why the fuck would they want to keep steve over JMac is beyond me? Steve put meg up, steve sent thier main alliance member to jury, the one they vow to avenge. Then they have a chance to get him out, and they dont because jmac is alligned with people that are coming back! NEWS FLASH! You guys were alligned with the same fucking people! Did Austin fun mist them? Who do they think will go after them? This season they all seem to think if they make it to f5, they win, 5 people win BB 17! They are an alliance of 2, so they join an alliance of 3, that is very clearly in kahoots w/ Van and Steve?!! I SMFH. If Jmac doesnt bring this shit up, and if they dont listen to them… I hope they get evicted.
James would rather get drunk, stalk Meg and play games than try to win.
Meg isn’t sure where she is or whats going on.
I read in the updates that Steve asked for their votes. I haven’t read about Jmac talking to them yet. If I were goblins, I would be afraid to say anything to anyone other than each other because when they do, the whole house knows. Case in point: Jmac told Austin that James talked about working with him last week. Jmac told Austin that he was going to throw HOH to Jmac.
I do think that they would rather take out Steve but they are only 2 votes. I would be afraid that voting out Steve is a trick. (I believe I read that Vanessa wants to keep Meg and James out of the loop and be the odd man out.)
I’m more annoyed at Jmac because if he doesn’t talk to James and Meg to get their votes because Vanessa doesn’t think it’ll work, then it’s all on Jmac. Vanessa already said she would use the veto then backtracked and said she wanted to vote the same way as the twins. RED ALERT!
I truly think she wants to work with jmac. It’s smart for both of them because no one would suspect it.
She really has been trying to get them to keep him, but in a very round about way. She’s kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place because she knows the odds are against him staying, so she can’t cross the line with austwits when she just smoothed everything over with them.
I also think she believes jmac will come back if it’s a physical comp tonight. And I agree, I think he has a good shot. Becky would be his biggest competition in a physical.
Austwins are idiots. Please never procreate!
Ya, OK, Austin and Liz. Sure, 2 out of 4 are coming after you… Try 4 out of 4. You are a block vote of 3, that has had power for 2 weeks. You will be on the block, and it will be glorious! … I hope.
God didn’t create anything without a purpose….but Vanessa and mosquitoes sure come close
Did Steve’s speech make anyone else’s skin crawl. That is one creepy, awkward kid. Hope it’s an act, but sadly, I don’t think so. Get some confidence and quit being a weirdo before you become a headline on CNN!
I’ve known a lot of nerds, but Steve is the first one to have NEVER played chess. I don’t know what’s real & what isn’t with him. That’s a good thing. We know too much about some of these people,
No, but I must say your comment makes my skin crawl in the way you just described.
If you put the twins brains in a parakeet, it would fly backwards. Big night, let’s bring back a juror, swing power to the other side, and stop this insanity . Time to put a tent over this circus. If the twits – Austin- van – were tv characters, and reading script, I’d hate them enough. The fact that they are playing themselves is hard to comprehend . Any whoo … Time to flip script : bitches!
Fly backwards hahaha
MegSlurp!!!
So many thumbs down? I would love to take a walk on her wild side. Something tells me she is finger licking good!
at tomorrow’s live eviction, I better hear a #Johnny Mac chant
I don’t understand how they think… Austin! you’re 8 in the house! You’re known as being in a threesome! 3 out of 8!! of course someone is going to come after you….heeeellloooooo!
I want a powershift this week… If only somene could come after Vanessa officially, so we can see her work for real! I wanna see if she’s just good because she’s playing with scared people, or if she’s really good at it. Or at least, I wanna see James put the twins on the block and backdoor Austin.
have they stopped the tilt-a-whirl of indecision yet?
does it really matter which one goes to the progression of the game? Both are justified to target anyone in the game from this point on if they get power after this.
does it really matter which one returns to the game? They’re all going to go after the same people. None of them were actually likeable people, some of them just happened to be on the underdog side so people grew to like them out of sympathy not because they were admirable.
Given that Steve is not saavy enough to verbally postulate an argument, It’s no surprise that he couldn’t respond to Austin correctly when Austin was trying to decide who to nominate. His response should have been “are James and Meg fun enough to give them the prize money for the pleasure of their company? Target and get rid of James. What’s Meg going to do about it? Win every comp until final two and take you down?”
If you’re Vanessa, why not tell Jmac he’s going before the rest of the house can tell him. Make him fight for himself in the best case scenario: manage a juror or potential returning player in the worst case scenario. The fact that the rest are still scavenging for syrup in case of more waffling is their own fault. As a bonus, if James and Meg do somehow flip, report their flip to Austin and the twins to break up the funseekers.
Fact is James’ pattern suggests he will never keep Jmac. He’s consistently gone after the physical players in the game hoping to dominate the physical challenges after they’re gone. That means Meg won’t vote to keep Jmac because she plays the game like she’s James stooge. Honestly, what decision has she made for herself in two weeks? As much as James asks meg if her idea to get Shelli out was the right idea… she suggested it, he ran with it and convinced Meg and Jackie that backstabbing Becky was the best move (for him, but he didn’t say that).
If history of north american big brother curses holds true, James will not win. First hoh has never won. Just like Day’vonne was doomed the moment she walked through the door first into the house.
Hayden won Big Brother 12 U.S. after winning the first HOH.
I pressed enter before fact checking. you’re correct. typically first hoh doesn’t win but there have been a couple of occasions.
I stand corrected.
Hayden won 1st Hoh and won game!!
Terrific post. Well done.
they should have cast jmac and his twin for the twin twist instead of conjoined twins liz-ard and juju-nut (joined at the brain) at least then there would have been some intelligence in the house
He DOESN”T have one..
JMac does not have a twin. It was a joke.
I noticed that one of the earlier alliances is not mentioned on list. Even though it no longer exists, the Sixth Sense worked together for a bit and made some moves. Audrey-Vanessa-Clay-Sheila-Austin-Liz.
This is not a critique – I am amazed at how much detail you are able to capture each season. Thank you so much for doing this year after year for the fans!
Vanessa should have been gone some weeks ago. Everyone is afraid of her for whatever reason. I like how last night she tried to put Steve on blast for lying or being insincere when she has been lying manipulating and doing the same thing at the Veto meeting. Liz always complains and is bitchy about everything. Austin has no balls. Julia is more of the down to earth twin as far as I have seen and that’s cool. Meg is cool but Zingbot didn’t lie about her gameplay. However in her defense you don’t do stuff like that often so I’m sure I would not have won any comps either. James feels he is living in a frat house but I don’t knock him for having a little fun. JMac….I want him to stay so bad but either way I think they should get VANESSA out. Steve is nerdy so it would be nice to see him win it all but I have my doubts on that based off his HOH. He ran strictly off emotions without checking both sides. He should know better than that.
Actually the more closely I’m watching Meg’s reactions to Steve and jmac, the less I’m liking her. I noticed a couple sour looks she’s given them both, now I notice her doing it all the time. You can tell she does not like either of them.
Here Kitty Kitty!
Why doesn’t James and Meg study for the next HOH comp, if they know what kind of comp it is??? Every time twits and Vanessa study before a comp , they win! It’s like they’re (james/meg) just sitting there waiting to get beat again,..I know Meg can’t win the physical, but can’t she at least study for the other comps like everyone else? It’s like they’re just sitting waiting to get picked off, cause if the ASssstwits don’t do it, Vanessa, or Steve will! 5 to 2 is the odds stacked against them….and with MEG, it’s like 5 to 1..If Becky or Jackie come back, they have a better shot at getting the assstwits out!
Right. I hate how CBS doesn’t change the games especially when the cast knows it coming up. They need to change the games! I don’t see how the hog would be Days because returning jury member won’t know info until they only do days prior to the date the first jury member left the house.
Next week the Austwits need to be the target. If they get power they need to get rid of Vanessa. Her back and forth on the votes this week alienated Steve who up til now was a loyal alliance member. Now not so much. No one likes or trusts her so she will just drag them down. A meat shield that can win veto comps is no shield at all.
Finally a Thursday show where we will be surprised. Not by who will be evicted, but by who will come back in. Can’t wait!
I m still surprised how much support j-mac gets .. Even when he is agains the ropes he doesn’t t do shit.. Good bye
Thank god Johnny is leaving.
Hope Shelli comes back tonight.
Anyone but Johnny.
I would rather JMac comes back. At least he is funny.
Time for James and his creepy hat to get to steppin.
Cute speech, personal and self-ironic, I’m sold. I’m a Steliever now, hahaha. Love the kid as a person. He has potential for a strong end game as well, let’s see.
At least Steve is getting a little street cred by hanging and flirting with Julia. That boy is now a celeb in his neighborhood home town. This experience will definately change his life.
Did Jmac apply for BB? or if he got recruited, where from?
I sure hope that whomever comes back tonight does something to stir the pot. Last year, when Nicole came back, I was hoping for something good to happen but it was just disappointing. Hoping something happens to make it exciting instead of watching Austin and friends get more inflated egos than they already have.
I can still hope that these strange people will evict the conniving Sssssssteve boogereating ass today! #HATESTEVE @SAYNOtoBoogereating
When he flosses his teeth, Steve often lick the remnants of foot –including boogers– remaining between his teeth! Bon apetit Steve Moses and congrats to his mom for raising the greatest boogereater in BB history! #gross
Squabble min o pause Canadian Kev and big sexy crack me up