“How do we tell Leah? we’ll go up to my HOH room later and you can tell me then”

Quick Big Brother Spoilers

Head of Household: Tkor
Nominees: Tucker, Makensy, Cam
POV Players: Cam, Tkor, Makensy, Tucker, Joseph and Angela
POV Winner: Cam
Veto Ceremony: ?
Havenots: No havenots this week

Spoilage – Tucker was the AI instigator. The renomination is Angela or Leah Tkor spent 12 hours in the HOH room whispering to figure it out.

7:00 pm Tkor and Makensy
Makensy says she was scared to hear that Tucker offered himself up as a pawn. “I get worried that I am the main target”
M – I would like to know your ideas who renoms are if you got any.
T – MMMMMMMMMMMM
M – I told Rubina, I want to play this game, I want to play with people I told you that. I want to be here and I want to help people. I’ve been dealt a bad hand of cards from the beginning. I know I can help people. I know that I can and I know I can be loyal. I’ve had your back and I’ve had Rubina’s back. I understand I look like a threat but I literally can’t be right now I don’t have the numbers.
T – MMMMMMMMMMMM
M – I played college sports for a semester that is it.
T – MMMMMMMMMMMM
M – I just hope
T – MMMMMMMMMMMM
M – If I don’t win
T – MMMMMMMMMMMM
M – AI Arena
T – MMMMMMMMMMMM
M – that someone gives me some grace and that I can work with some people and get this stuff started
T – MMMMMMMMMMMM
M – me loyal
T – MMMMMMMMMMMM
M – I don’t know where your heads at
T – MMMMMMMMMMMM
M – I talked to Rubina about it, I feel stuck
T – MMMMMMMMMMMM
M – and it’s at other peoples
T – MMMMMMMMMMMM
M – Expense… at it’s not even yours
(Ok I’m not going to continue the mmmmmmmm’s but it’s pretty stupid how many she says… like worst than like Joe’s like likes)
M – I mean, I understand you don’t want blood, and I understand that we’ve all been up there and then one offered. And so that’s about. Best way to go about it and there’s no judgment. And I even told you that there’s no judgment on that. I just. am trying obviously now to stay.
M – why you put me up there I get it I’m almost flattered to be up there with two biggest guys in the house.
M – I don’t know what Quinn told you but Angela goes into our freaking room.. and was like we got to change it.. it’s because apparently someone said she’s it… you know I’m loyal to Tucker and Loyal to Rubina and you too.
Makesny points out the quick turn by Angela, “Tucker saved her”
T – one thing I will say from the conversations that I’ve had today is that and I do mean this honestly. Like I do think and maybe this is based on who you’re sitting next to But I do think even if it comes down to it and you don’t win AI. There are people that still want you here. I also want you here.
Tkor doesn’t think Makensy is going to be evicted.
Makensy – if I win next week I have no intention of targeting you. This is not bad blood and I mean that. full heartedly. I know this was hard for you and I don’t want bad blood

Feeds cut. When we’re back they are hugging it out.

7:50 pm Tucker and Tkor
Tkor – I’m tired, I don’t think i’ve been outside today.
Tucker – you’re almost done
Tkor – it’s just you and Angela.. How are you doing
Tucker – I’m good. I was hoping it was a costume. It’s kinda the only thing left to go there was the vacation, money and the other two punishments seem like punishments.

Tucker – You know, so every time I watch these and my friends who watch it, I told them like, dude, if I get to do that, they’re like, you will be the most annoying person. these punishments. And I was like, yeah, because I talked in like… we all went to Mexico for spring break one year and talked in Australian accent for 7 days straight. And I never stopped in Mexico. In Mexico, you were talking in an Australian accent because we went It was like spring break. So all these other people there and my friends are like, bro, you gotta stop and I couldn’t. My thoughts were all in Australian when I left… It was great.. (LOL)

Tucker – I think i’ll crush the thing (AI Arena)
Feeds flip.. When we’re back.
Tucker – are you still trying to get Makensy is that where your head’s at?
Tkor – mmmmmmm
Tucker – she’s not in our alliance.. the more I’ve been thinking about those videos… I know alot of people think it’s Angela. but then I was thinking earlier today I don’t think she would have called me out like that if it was her. There’s rumours that Leah is into me since the first week here. So that with the Rubina sh1t makes sense. (LOL)
Tucker calls Leah a floater “She’s a sponge of knowledge. people say a lot around her and aren’t aware of what they said”
Tucker – she seems like someone everyone can talk to and she’s got every guy in her ear except me (and Kimo)
Feeds cut.. When we’re back

Tkor – Quinn said he’s not voting you out either
Tucker – yeah and I trust that at least for this week. Everything changes week to week, day to day.

8:26 pm Angela and Tkor
Angela cries about being away from her family for 2 months “I wanted so badly to be a part of what you guys had that I was begging for it. You’ve been so luck and bless that you have that”


8:50 pm Rubina and Tkor
Tkor – Tucker was in here saying 6 AVE Strong
Rubina – Quinn telling him will help
Tkor says it might make Tucker more paranoid but he does have Quinn’s vote if next to Angela. He will not have Quinn’s vote if next to Leah. This is assuming Makensy wins the AI Arena.
Tkor stresses that Quinn and Joe both have really good relationships with Leah.
Tkor says if Leah goes that’s one less number for Quinn and Joe. They could potentially lean on her in the future. She also suspects Cam could as well.
Tkor – even though Leah is interested in taking those people out.

Tkor – The way Leah is going to see it is Angela and Quinn are much bigger targets than her, so why are you putting me up? I agree with her but I am trying to work with both of them . not by choice
Rubina – have you talked a lot of game with her?
Tkor – A little bit..
Rubina – maybe that… I talked a little more game with Quinn.
Tkor – what about Joe? she will think he could be a nominations
Rubina – say he’s in solitary and you haven’t had a chance to talk to him
Tkor – i don’t want to go around telling people makensy is my target.
Rubina – you don’t need to do that.

Tkor – I’m not going to lie Leah is good. For a second she had me thinking do I flip this whole game over and do something crazy? she did she had me thinking
Rubina – why cause what she said about?
Tkor – about basically the observations she had about umm.. the thing is in this game people that I see as potential numbers for Tucker outside of you are Joe, Cam, Makensy. Even sometimes Kimo lets keep it real. Even Quinn too.. People are really able to be sucked in by him.
Rubina – Tucker?
Tkor – mmmhmmmm
R – for whatever reason he’s just being himself it’s really annoying.
Tkor is fine with that as long as she had confirmation that Tucker wasn’t double dipping.
T- Here’s my think. The reason why I feel like 6th Avenue shouldn’t be is one I don’t want to be in an alliance with Angela.
R- I know Nobody wanted to.
T – Also personally does nobody see her as a threat? She has won two HOHS she won the most HOHS in the house thus far.
R- I know that is what makensy was saying
T – she might win more
R – But that’s good for us if she’s in our thing
Tkor brings up forming a new 6 by bringing in Chelsie and Quinn “that’s a solid 5 against 1 if we need it then with 6th avenue where it would be split because I think Angela and Joe would ride with Tucker”
R – that’s why
T – with Joe and Angela we could beat them in the end
R – I think we could to be honest
Tkor tells her Angela was crying to her about not wanting her friend Leah to go on the block.
Tkor says Tucker told Angela about the pact between Tkor and Chelsie. Rubina is pissed. “I’m going to have some words with him.. you don’t need to be running your mouth”
T – it’s making me not want to tell him anything.


9:22 pm Tucker, Kimo, Tkor, Rubina
Tucker – Kimo told me what Leah said, Kimo what exactly was it? How I told her about 5 points… 3 times with one on ones in this house that I initiated. I did not tell her about that sh1t. At all.. no…
Tucker – we had three convos and two of them were about how I am so much like her friends and how i would really like her friends and the other one was about her dad and how her dad collects rocks. I was shocked when he told me that.. I was like SHE’S got to be behind these deep fakes.

9:41 pm Kimo and Tkor
Tkor thinks Quinn told Tucker about Angela’s attempts to get him out.
Tkor – I’ll be honest the only person I really trust is you. I trust Rubina but she can have rose coloured glasses on when it comes to that man
Tkor – How do we tell Leah? we’ll go up to my HOH room later and you can tell me then.

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un autre nom

ON TONIGHT’S LATE NIGHT EPISODE OF THE GODOTS

IS T’KOR FINALLY GOING TO ENACT WHAT I THINK HER PLAN HAS BEEN SINCE FRIDAY?
T’kor is….
finally speaking up about her feelings. Only to Rubina and Kimo, doesn’t want Tucker pulled into the convo. She wants to say her piece without being interrupted and bulldozed.
Angela is out of d/r. They didn’t give her a bag of pills and a blanket… so expect an AWFUL lot of Angela d/r for her punishment.
THE BASICS T’kor expresses:
2 wild cards causing chaos and going outside the alliance to have alliance discussions is too much for T’kor. (reminder… she and Kimo have gall to say this considering the events of week 4).
She never wanted to be aligned with Angela.
6th Avenue doesn’t work for her.
Paraphrase:
Kimo adds that Angela is directly targeting pookie.
Oh no not pookie is the look on Rubina’s face.
the 2 look like they might cry because both of their Love Island games depend on him.
Angela might be renom again.
might. don’t anyone cheer or jeer.
Kimo does not look incredibly happy, but is doing his best to be hide that the HOH is taking his HOH away from him.
IF they put ANGELA on the block… they have to make sure ANGELA GOES.
That’s where they are in the conversation.
KIMO has caved now that Angela has said Tucker’s name and T’kor has finally opened her mouth. FOR NOW.
It was a lot of stammering and broken sentences at first from T’kor.
They agree Tucker says too much and it is couched as ‘probably didn’t know he was saying it’. He knew. Each time he over-exposed last week he was aware of what he was doing. So the women agree Tucker LIKELY outed five pointz… without knowing he outed five pointz. He knew. He was trying to bury Brooklyn and told just about EV-er-Yone.
AND NOW THEY DISCUSS LEAH. Telling Quinn about Leah badmouthing him because they trust Quinn except where Leah is concerned. SO…. the same discussion since week 4… that they GODOT about and never actually say anything.
If Leah was nom… who is target Leah or MJ?
IF Angela is renom who cares? Nobody. IF Leah is renom who cares? Jospeh and Quinn.
Is the Joseph and Quinn and Leah thing a worry? Like they are a trio?
Oh right, this bunch think Cam, Tucker, Mak have a secret final 3 so….
(the trio Tucker suggested to Mak was Mak Tucker and someone else… he was thinking Leah but wasn’t explicit). That’s why they are in supposition land after the reveal that there was an f3 talk initiated by Tucker to MJ who told Leah who told this trio.
They are back to ANGELA renom again because NOBODY says Pookie’s name (1/4 the house says it quite regularly this week, lol). But how to give Angela a head’s up. Why… if the whackjob is going to whackjob… why bother with a head’s up? I say let Tucker do it.
She’s going to think it was a house wide conspiracy ANYWAY.
Don’t worry, Kimo will express some Leah thought within the next ten minutes.
SIDE NOTE THAT I FOUND ODD
We have to give Tucker firm directions (says his editmance)…
Me: and a leash or a muzzle or a timeout I might suggest, or tell him he’ll lose screen time if he doesn’t behave… Anyone got a ball gag and a riding crop is probably what Kimo wonders….. could t’kor crochet those?
WHAT DOES A GODOT DO? THEY TALK IN CIRCLES BECAUSE MAKING A DECISION IS TOO DECLARITIVE AND ASSERTIVE…
WE’RE OVER AN HOUR AND A HALF IN… ON A 2 PERSON RENOM CHOICE…..AND WHO TO ALIGN WITH THIS WEEK AFTER BLOWING UP LAST WEEK’S ALLIANCE AND THE ONE BEFORE THAT THE WEEK BEFORE WHILE TALKING ABOUT LOYALTY….
no really.
NOW THERE’S THREE OF THEM. It’s the trouble with Tribbles live action.
DECISION: LET”S NOT MAKE A DECISION UNTIL WE RUN IT PAST TUCKER.
no. really. head desk. help.

TUCKER HAS JOINED AND DOESN”T CARE WHAT ANGELA IS SAYING BECAUSE WITHOUt LEAH ANGELA HAS NOBODY BUT TUCKER. T’kor is in d/r. while Kimo stares into Tucker’s eyes and starts to wag his tail…. but still is trying to salvage his HOH by proxy by happy mediuming between T’kor and Tucker.
What Tucker’s basically pushing is 6th Avenue is HIS perfect alliance to keep all of his side pieces in one place. BUT THE OTHERS PRESENT DON’T WANT IT…. does anyone tell him?
Tucker is pledging his loyalty to the 6th Avenue and the Friend zzzz alliance…. and they have to keep Angela. Kimo…. says ANGELA is more dangerous. She whackjobs without provocation. Tucker is pissy about that. Bad Kimo…. baaad. No sleeping curled at my feet for you. IF ANGELA IS RENOM, ANGELA GOTTA GO Tucker ADMITS.
Tucker wants to call out Leah to blow up her relationships with the trio. He will if he wins HOH. Reminder: Tucker instructed Leah to get close to Angela last week. He was trying to form a side alliance with Leah, Joseph and Angela in case he needed numbers this week. Being Angela’s ONLY constant companion was cutting into his scene…. so he pawned her off on Leah… and now hates Leah for it.
OH…. now they are talking about Joseph being an OPPORTUNIST. Tucker feels Joseph is his boy. They tell him Joseph is using him as a shield in the game, not an ally.
Tucker is talking about throwing comps to lower his threat level…. to the people that value Tucker winning comps to keep THEM safe…. that’s a choice. When asked what if Cam wins. Tucker doesn’t know who Cam would nominate (but that final 2 keeps Tucker safe so who cares). Tucker again pushes stick with the six that is perfect for Tucker’s game.
Tucker saying if Angela goes, they have to pull in Quinn with the pre-existing five and give it a new name…. but Quinn is on the bottom because Tucker trusts Joseph more.
SO…. Tucker may not like it… but is already giving orders for how to proceed in a game without Angela.
QUESTION: DO TUCKER’S CHEER SQUAD (R and K) SEE THE RED FLAGS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN SAID TO THEM IN THE LAST LITTLE WHILE?

I need to sleep… and no decision has been made… because this is an episode of the Godots. Why decide ahead in a 3 hour filibuster when you can wait to the last second and scramble like the choice is being done TO you not being made BY you.

Daisy may123

So where is everyone tonight? Did everyone see the fake crying Angela did in the HOH room. She needs fake tears and acting lessons. Why are they waiting to get her out.

un autre nom

My reality:
Angela is a nope. That means I don’t want Angela in the game and want nothing good in the game for Angela.
Kimo is working against my agenda.
Kimo can suck it.
I’m being honest about my reasoning and my logic.
I want a nope to go.

After Mak spoke to Rubina and T’kor on Wed night about flipping the script to keep Brooklyn, they said why didn’t she talk like this to us sooner when we could have got the numbers.
After Mak spoke to T’kor prenoms, T’kor said why didn’t she speak to me like that sooner, she’d have been a good ally.
After Mak spoke to T’kor about Angela’s flipped switch… and then to Kimo and T’kor about putting Angela on the block, she said why didn’t she talk like this before I put her on the block.
Answer to T’kor’s Question:
She did, T’kor, you’ve just got blinders on.

Kimo thinks Mak goes after Angela if she stays.
I dunno. If I reached out to someone three times and got a slap in the face three times….
I might say fine, take your chances on the block let’s see how many people listen to you as you fight for your life in the game…. ESPECIALLY if i KNEW those people were going to vote me out unanimously if I hadn’t won my first AI.

Buuut… that doesn’t meet Kimo’s pathological one sided rivalry with Leah.

The Beef

Blinders? Is that the new word for glasses that only allows her to see things through racially biased lenses?

The real question for T’Kor is why is she even bothering to try and construct a six person alliance, when everyone knows she only wants to play with four other people in that house? She’s laid it out for Kimo, Rubina and even Quinn now, but left out the part where Quinn is simply the +1 to make it a six.

Maybe they think they need 6 to maintain the majority (there will be 10 left in the house after this weeks eviction), but given she only truly wants to play with Kimo, Rubina, Chelsie and Cam, the only reason for adding Quinn must be for that reason, and he gets the nod based on the fact there are no other POC in the house to fill the spot.

It’s pretty bad when she even assumes the others think the same way she does, says the 6th Avenue alliance would split 3-3, along racial lines of course, while her proposed new unnamed alliance would be a 5-1 split – also along racial lines. How the hell does she know Joseph and Angela wouldn’t go along with T’Kimo and Rubina, if push came to shove and a strategic decision had to be made, that Tucker disagreed with? Why does she just assume everybody thinks like she does, and that they will nominate or vote based on what color somebodies skin is?

And before anybody fires back at me that she nominated Cam this week, I’m well aware of that. She was also very happy and relieved when he won the Veto, and if you’re going to use that logic, please explain to me why she would nominate the guy and then turn around and include him in her final five alliance? That makes about as much sense as a football bat.

We’ll all be a lot better off when people stop viewing things through a racial lens. T’Kor seemed so moved that “Black women won 2 competitions on the same night!” last night. I hate to tell her, but at the Olympics just a week and a half ago 11 Black women won gold medals on the same night in the 4×100 meter relay and the 4×400 meter relay events in Paris, which included the 7 women that ran in the finals (1 woman ran in both finals) and the 4 alternates that ran in the preliminaries. There’s nothing new about Black women excelling and WINNING competitions in the world today, and the sooner we start acting like it’s not uncommon, the better off we all will be.

Holla

Big brother needs to stop casting players that solely play through this racial lens.

Gan ainm

From Tkor’s Mmmmmmmmmm perspective wouldn’t it be better to put up Angela and blow up another alliance she is on the bottom of?

d...

putting up angela and tucker guarantees one is staying and going after you.

Big Brother Korean Fan

Why does Tkor keep acting like Chelsie’s servant? I understand not trusting Angela or Leah, but Chelsie is the same!

Omega BB

Chelsie’s a WOC, simple as that.

Big Brother Korean Fan

Just for reference, I understand that, due to the dynamics of Big Brother and Survivor, people tend to feel closer to others of the same gender, race, and age group. In the past, there were mostly white contestants, and people of color often got eliminated quickly, so I can understand the formation of alliances to some extent. However, it seems like Chelsie doesn’t really consider Tkor as someone close, yet Tkor keeps looking out for her, which I find confusing. I know this is how Big Brother works, but still.

d...

yeah, bunch of one way streets going on with t’kor and chelsie as well as kimo and tucker. maybe why kimo and t’kor get along cuz they’re so bad at recognizing mutual relationships.

Mean Jean

Yes you are confused

Don't Shoot the Messenger

Racism.

Big Brother Korean Fan

I’m sorry if I came off as racist. However, I truly love CBS’s 50% policy and have been deeply moved by the diverse contestants on Survivor, Big Brother, and The Amazing Race. I’ve watched as white contestants naturally formed alliances while people of color struggled to rise, and it broke my heart. That’s why I welcome the inclusion of diverse participants and the formation of racial alliances. We can see new combinations beyond just male and female alliances! Moreover, I’ve criticized those who say it’s unfair when people of color form alliances while they didn’t say anything when white contestants did the same. However, I feel that Tkor might not need to take care of Chelsie so much, and it seems like he’s overly helping her, which is why I wrote this passionately. Well, I suppose Tkor has his own reasons.

The Beef

Whereas it’s true there have been plenty of alliances on Big Brother, Survivor and TAR that were “all white”, none of them to my knowledge ever stated or have been accused of specifically targeting POC, other than by fans like you who simply assume that’s what they were doing because they had no POC alliance members. There’s no video or feed evidence to support that allegation either that I know of.

There is PLENTY of evidence of racism in the BB house by numerous individual house guests, but that’s different from a whole alliance that’s based solely on race. Some of those players were called out for what they did and others had their actions buried or covered up, in an attempt to protect them from public scorn, but none of them were part of a group alliance designed to target or evict other players based on race until season 23 and the Cookout came along.

You can speculate about what went on behind the scenes all you want, but it would be hard to hide something like that, especially with all the cameras and microphones they have in there pretty much 24/7. If you know of a specific alliance you think did that, and you have evidence to back it up, by all means, share it with us, because I would sure like to know which one it is. But just because there were fewer POC players back in the day, and therefore more all white alliances (blame production for that), that doesn’t mean they were all “set-up” to target non-white players, nor does it mean they specifically or purposefully excluded POC players from those alliances.

I don’t like race based alliances because I think we get enough of that division already in our real world life. Also, people tend to think it’s okay for everybody to do it, but try setting up an all-white alliance and see how far you get. Most likely you would be the next person evicted, and would become the most hated player in BB history. Is that fair? I understand it wouldn’t look good, but how do you combat race based alliances if you can’t do the same thing yourself? Two seasons ago Kyle was severely criticized, merely for suggesting there might be a Black alliance in the house (he was right in the sense it had been talked about by at least 3 players, and they had also discussed block voting for each other in jury), and was immediately put on the block and voted out of the game. He was also called a racist (among other things) on social media, and all he did was suggest to his fellow white players there might be a Cookout 2.0 brewing in the house! If there’s nothing wrong with that kind of game play, why was he wrong to just bring it up?

Seems to me things would be a whole lot simpler if we could just leave race out of it, and just play the damn game!

Big Brother Korean Fan

Are you an older white male by any chance? I’m sorry if not.
I asked you because you don’t seem to understand the nature of what I’m saying at all.

Women or the underprivileged would of course have felt left out of the mainstream.
As a fan of Survivor and Big Brother, I’ve read a lot of interviews about being left out by a small number of races like me, making it difficult to join a union.
It’s the production team’s fault, but there’s definitely something that’s implicitly excluded from American society.
I’m not saying that many white federations are racist.
It means that I was excluded naturally. Of course, the number of people is small, so I can’t help being excluded
Was there any sympathy from the viewers that their game must have been tough?
The 50% policy was created decades later because there has been no such policy. Viewers have never spoken out when people of color are marginalized, but I don’t think the production team can be the only one to blame. Many cast members spoke out in interviews with articles after they were eliminated, but viewers stayed on the sidelines.

Naturally, the white majority has never ostensibly tried to eliminate people of color.
Because I didn’t have to.
There’s always been a lot of white people, so there’s no need to do that.
Even if there is a winner among people of color, it’s not a fair game. The contestant was just good.

Usually, when you first start in a strange place, you easily talk to people who have gender, age, race, and commonality. So there were many men’s and women’s federations. The same goes for race. When you ask why there wasn’t before, there were so many white people that you couldn’t do it before. There are many now, so you can do it.

According to your logic, there should be no men’s and women’s federations. Aren’t youth and senior federations all divided into teams? But since the 23rd season, the majority of them are not white because of the 50% policy, so there could be cookouts. I don’t like strong federations like the cookouts because I think the fun of the game comes first, but I thought there could be a season like that. Just as Brigades formed a strong league of only men, Cookouts are made up of black people. It’s a social game, so we can’t rule it out. We can’t say, “Don’t do the men’s league! Don’t do the black league!”

We didn’t accuse Brigid of being a men’s league
That’s why I don’t think it’s right to accuse Cookout of being a federation of only black people.
Now that the cast’s races are diversified, various federations can be formed.

Of course, I don’t like contestants who shout, “Only men! Only people of color!”
But I think it might be because this program is a social game. Because they have a relationship that they prefer.

Big Brother Korean Fan

If you want to blame people of color for being attracted to each other, shouldn’t you also blame the old season when only white people were attracted to each other?

You can’t blame white people from the old season, but you can’t blame people of color from the current season. It’s about naturally engaging with attractive people.

Just as women’s federations were formed to kick men out when they played so well that they were united (there have often been seasons when women say ‘get together’ – never been criticized.)
In the meantime, there may be a league of color because white people have made up the majority.
I can’t help it because it was like that the previous season. It doesn’t make sense to criticize.

Isn’t it against white people? Yes, it was the same for people of color. Now, we need to find new ways. When it comes to social games, we can’t leave out gender, generation, and race. If people of color go back to playing the league and make the game boring, public opinion about it will rise, and new players will be aware of that.

I just commented because I felt sorry for Tkor’s choice. She doesn’t seem to care much about Tkor. I don’t blame her for being a woman of the same race, but I don’t think she’s good to Tkor.

Anyway, I don’t think we can narrow our opinions because we have different ideas. I understand what you’re pointing out, but there could also be Brigades or Cookouts. I don’t like Brigades or Cookouts. They make the game boring for the viewers. But they had something in common and played a good game together.
I can’t blame them for why they’re federating.

The Beef

I seem to recall the Brigade working with a fourth person. She wasn’t aware of the alliance name, but she was well aware the four of them were working together – she just didn’t know she was on the bottom of the totem pole. Her name was Britney Haynes, a White female, and she was quite happy to work with the 3 guys, right up until the point they evicted her in 4th place. Of course, she wasn’t real happy about that, but it doesn’t change the fact she worked WITH them up until that point, and the fact that the guys had a strong alliance and LOYALTY between the 3 of them simply meant she had to go then.

The Brigade never once discussed evicting people based on their race or their gender. The Cookout on the other hand was FORMED to do exactly that, which was the BIG difference between the two. They even came up with the “pawn strategy” (which was brilliant, btw), where each one of them would latch on to another house guest as their “best friend” in the house, use them to collect information and then develop their own strategy, before finally evicting them, even if it meant putting their own “pawn” up on the block, as Tiffany ended up doing to Claire! That was absolutely heart breaking to watch, as it was the back-stab of all back-stabs, and Claire would have NEVER even have considered putting Tiffany up! But it was done because in Tiffany’s words “There’s something bigger going on here”. I just don’t know how you knife somebody in the back like that, after 8 weeks of being their #1 person, and still be able to sleep at night.

I totally understand that we hadn’t had a Black winner of BB US up to that point, outside of the celebrity version of the game, so I get why they did it. Their strategy worked perfectly for them, and many look at them as heroes for what they did. The question now though is, with the change in casting, why is it necessary to continue with this race based game playing? Why is it okay for players to say “I want a Black player to win” or “I want a Black woman to win”, but it’s not okay to say “I want a White man to win”? Hell, the only thing ANY of them should be saying is “I want to win!”

So what I hear you telling me is that the best way for them to win is to band together by race and get it done. Well, if that’s the case, it should be fair for EVERYBODY to be able to do that, and openly state their intentions of doing that as well, right? But you and I both know that’s not the case, because the minute somebody tries to form an all White alliance based solely on that fact, with the stated intention of getting out the POC players first, what do you think is going to happen? All Hell will rain down on CBS, the production team, and whoever that player is, he/she will be called into the d/r and will most likely be summarily ejected from the game for……being racist! What’s great strategy and good game play for one is reprehensible and racism for another.

THAT’S the biggest problem with race based game play, that and the fact it continues to drive a wedge between us, rather than unite us. Why can’t Big Brother just say “You can’t talk about people’s race with regards to game play!” They have no problem saying “You can’t talk about production!” It might not stop them from doing what they’re going to do, but at least they could try.

I’ve been watching this show since it’s inception, and I’ve seen the good, the bad and the ugly. I’ve seen racism from Aryn and GinaMarie in 15 as well as Michie and Jack in 21 among others. I’ve seen boorish behavior from Black players as well like Chima in 11, Da’vonne in multiple seasons, and Jozea in 18 (who called himself the Messiah). I’m tired of seeing all that, and now I’m tired of seeing the race based alliances. Let’s get back to good old fashioned Big Brother, and no I don’t mean when the White players always win. Now with the more diverse casting that’s not going to happen, and you’re not going to see all-White alliances, nor should you. You might see all-XXX alliances if they are small, and I’m okay with that, as long as they don’t go around spouting their goal is to get out all the players who don’t look like them.

#NoMoreCookouts

Big Brother Korean Fan

I respect your opinion, and I also feel that games like that can be boring. But that doesn’t mean you can’t just say, “Don’t do it.” When people said, “You’ve been dominated by men in the Big Brother game, let’s form a women’s union,” they were rather enthusiastic about it and couldn’t control it. Just like that, you can’t control when someone asks you to form a league based on race. Whether the judgment is right or wrong. I don’t like Cookout. It makes such a predictable game. But there are racists who mock and dislike people of color who call it cookout when people of color get together. In the meantime, stereotyped characters of color have appeared in the media, and it’s only now that there’s a multitude of people of color. There’s this kind of transition. With more federations like Cookout, we can talk about that now. I mean, you can’t just say minority groups don’t minority groups. And what you’re thinking is that white people, regardless of race or gender, are united because I didn’t speak to them on the surface, but naturally, the same colors felt closer together. There are people who speak like Eileen in the 15th season, and there are people who just don’t bother to say it out loud. Isn’t it the same in school? Being close to the same race. You can’t stop them from acting out, can you?

Mean Jean

Please explain how she is acting like Chelsea servant ?

Big Brother Korean Fan

Chelsie was the leader of the Pentagon, and she only included Tkor in terms of numbers, not as a strong alliance. However, even before B was eliminated, Tkor was determined to save Chelsie, and only when Chelsie found herself in a difficult situation did she turn to Tkor. I felt this in Tkor’s willingness to accept her at that moment.

Ruben

I thought Taran from RHAP was exaggerating about the amount of mmmmm’s. ?

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As predicted, Tucker didn’t believe Quinn about Angela.
Because a whackjob that whackjobbed on an alliance made just to keep her safe week one that then went on the attack against just about 2/3 of the house in three days….
Isn’t going to whackjob on Tucker? Sideye.

She’s been in d/r for what seems like a couple hours….. horse tranquilizers and hypnosis?
She’s likely doing d/r for her punishment but she’s whackadoodling about how everyone’s out to get her too much to read her lines. Train a bag of cats to fetch… while still in the bag.

Rubina learns there were two sources to Angela’s latest flipout, not one, so surmises it is true. Wonder if they’ll find out Leah was there too…. T’kor already knows. Mak told her Leah and Quinn were addressed and Mak was ignored but present.

Kimo’s just hoping they can tell Leah tonight that she’s renom so that his one sided rival leaves this week, and this whole Angela mess doesn’t wreck his HOH.
What. HE told T’kor the noms before she did one on ones so the entire one on one process was moot. He told T’kor the replacement nom and has pushed that agenda no matter what information comes out. He held one on ones with all of the men in the house about what T’kor would do this week. Did anyone notice it was all of the men he was holding court with? Joseph, Tucker, Quinn, even Cam.
He has HOHITIS by proxy.

BB9000

” Train a bag of cats to fetch… while still in the bag.”

Precious, Hilarious

orwell the out of work bbad owl

I’m so sick of these people starting a new alliance every week. They get tossed out for whoever is HOH and no one can be loyal to anything. I don’t know what’s worse, all the alliances or the dumb names they name them!

Tucker For The Win

I’m so done with KiKor’s flip flopping!

cajo

It’s stupid how Leah constantly says like like like like and she rambles on for hours.

REO

That is nowhere near as worse as Tkor and all her “MMMMMMMMMMMM”

What a horrible social game.

You are better off talking game to the house plants than Tkor.

T’Kor keeps pressing people about who they would nominate. As we saw in the episode with leah. Giving Tkor a favorable TV edit that is rather dumbfounding. When Tkor is aligned with practically the whole house, minus pretty white girls!! So there’s no right way to go about it.

Now as the feed world is starting to see. When T’kor is asked the same thing about game. Tkor is a hypocrite and only responds with “MMMMMMMMMM” and “yea.” T’kor’s day of comeuppance will come as she changes alliances like you change underwear and that “mmmmmmmmm” crap is only going to last her for so long. Can’t stand angela, but Tkor putting her up is going to blow up T’kor’s spot.

Tre Billis

Angela should have been gone a long time ago. They keep her things would blow up again. And after how she has behaved she does not deserve to be there. Personally it annoyed the heck out of me where T’Kor drilling people on who they would put up. Because T’Kor is aligned with everybody in the house. There is no winning answer.

OGBBFan

Sometimes I feel Angela has been saved so many times so that she could win this season. We’ve had plenty of white winners. Several POC (The girl that won & had her feelwings hurt because everyone is picking on her that didnt do anything spectacularto win-the 1 they had that stupid commentary with Cody & the Sikh).A few Hispanic? The annoying “Let’s Go” (which i hate because every reality comp show uses Lets Go) girl and that annoying Josh guy. The Sikh guy. I think we’ve had winners of every color now, so I don’t want to hear crap about not being represented. We haven’t had an older winner yet. Can’t be ageist now,can we?

mooning

The first time I saw T’Kor my reaction was something “off” about her. Could be her head dress are wigs. The large glasses. The accent.. All designed to try disguise herself so when it’s over people won’t recognize her. On the plus side, she’s a good actress as everyone thinks she “sweet.” But she’s a snake that cannot be trusted or relied on in this game. Tucker made a big mistake thinking it was noble to go on the block to help her feel better about herself. She doesn’t give a crap about him. I’m sure he’s gone this week, unless he wins AI comp. Hope America gives him the twenty thousand..

The Beef

Oh he’s getting the $20g’s. You can bet Grod will see to that. That’s most likely the reason why he “threw” the $5g prize to T’Kor in the Veto comp, and took the unitard punishment instead – spread the wealth a bit, and doesn’t make him look greedy.

Every week he volunteers for the block is dumber than the week before when he volunteered. This is the third time he’s done it, and it’s possible it may bite him in the arse this time. Probably not, because production will see to it he wins the Ai competition, but sometimes mistakes happen.

mooning

I thinks it is so unfair that Big Brother allowed T’kor to make a comment about how happy or proud she is/was two coloured women won comps, on the show yesterday. In fact, tried to present her off coloured remark as if T’kor and the other black women are victims. The under dogs in the game. . When in fact they are running the game. . WTF. BB… If Leah had made the comment about herself and another white woman she’d be labelled a racist. Maybe even asked to leave. Social media would have blown up. Sure an argument in the real world outside of the Big Brother house as to how valid the remark is can be made. . However BB is a game and prejudice and racial intent should not be tolerated.

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The plan this morning is Tucker is going to call out Angela because he can use his CIA training to tell if she’s lying.
THEN they will decide on a renom.
BUT Tucker has already said he’s fine with Angela as renom, so T’kor could take that as permission.
I don”t lknow how long they rehashed without decision for after I went to sleep… but you know damn well they rehashed because. Just because.

Things I failed to note because I was tired after hours of circlejerk talk:
Rubina and KImo realized Tucker may have a f2 with Joseph because of how hard Tucker pushed for Joseph when they expressed concern. Don’t worry, Rubina will pillow talk him.
Tucker admitted to throwing veto to Cam.
Kimo may have said too much about Joseph if Tucker tells on him.
Kimo’s about face when Tucker entered the scene re: the Angela and Leah debate was odd… but I’m betting he wanted to rehash it after Tucker went to bed.
There are no adults in the house to supervise the Godots and lead them to EVER make a decision. No really. Not one.

All this over Leah vs. Angela?
Joseph should be out of his closet around 11am. No cams were on him for 24 hours. They’ve never done THAT before. Xavier and Felicia had some cam coverage. HOW BORING DO YOU HAVE TO BE THAT PRODO DOESN’T CARE THAT YOU ARE ABSENT FOR A FULL DAY?

mooning

I suspect Tkor’s original target was Tucker. But seems something has come up to now make her second guess her decision. She knows she can control Tucker.

Mayarha6

Horrible human being Angela!!!!
Renom Angela
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She’ll be debating it on the damn floor at the meeting and trying to pull people aside for more one on ones.

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CONFRONTATION RESULTS: NO RESULT YET BUT ANGELA RENOM CHANCES DOWN FROM 65% to 50%.

Tucker thinks Mak started the whole thing, Quinn isn’t trustworthy.
Angela told T’kor just to put her on the block sad old lady tearless crying.
Angela also bused Tucker’s multiple deals and final 2’s.
Tucker still wants Leah renom.
Angela outdoors alone says damn I made my move too soon.
Mak says she masterminded nothing. Admitted Tucker is a competitor but only wanted Angela’s vote. (the discussion yesterday afternoon, outside I think, where Mak told Angela that Tucker makes too many promises and doesn’t keep them is what started Karengela on this route but they aren’t talking about that).
Tucker retells to the house.
Rubina believes Quinn over Leah’s explanation to Tucker.
Kimo believes Quinn over Leah’s explanation to Tucker.
T’kor tells Quinn that Leah bused him to Tucker, and said there was an all guy’s alliance.
Quinn still trusts Leah more than Angela. T’kor says she won’t renom Leah if Quinn doesn’t want her to.
Rubina confirming Leah bused Quinn.
KIMO BACK TO WANTING LEAH AS RENOM.
TUCKER STILL WANTING LEAH AS RENOM.

DID anyone think the confrontation wouldn’t be spun, and Tucker wouldn’t still push Leah? Or that Kimo wouldn’t take the opportunity to try to get his one sided rival on the block once Tucker got riled? Really?
Kimo still worried Quinn is still too close to Leah, T’kor agrees.

Chelsie tells Angela and Leah Quinn is a snake.

So. Where are we? Kimo pushing Leah.
Tucker headless chickening to push his agenda to get Leah out. He’s even pulled in Cam.
Everyone talking about Leah because Angela tearless cried. Tucker hugs Angela for telling the truth.

Quinn is pushing Angela. Tucker is pushing Leah. Kimo is pushing Leah.
Angela is soft campaigning to Leah and Chelsie for votes.
Chelsie is… I don’t even KNOW what her agenda is. Sorry. It’s just… she’s doing a whole different plotline.

Angela sucks up to Rubina hoping that she can avoid the block… it was a silly mistake cus she’s just a silly old woman that gets scared. blink blink.
Angela revealed the final 2 with Tucker. Tucker covers like a cheating boyfriend… she wanted one with me, but I only have eyes for you baby.

NO DECISION YET.
Chances Angela is renom are down to 40% at most…
but Angela is prepping to blow everyone’s shit up.

BB Princess

PLEASE T’Kor…put Angela up!

Tank

Let’s be honest people. It’s not going to be a fun nor interesting game at all if Chelsie leaves. Chelsie is probably the smartest outside of the big alliance. I think America nervous cause if Tucker sits against Lea at Eviction they may flip on tucker lol. Get ready!

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Tucker Rubina SYNOPSIS
Angela meant nothing to me baby, you have to believe me, you’re the only one i want…
now go tell T’kor to put Leah on the block and keep Angela. Now go cook me some bacon and eggs, toots.
There, I saved you five minutes.

Ribbet

I would love it if Tgor said, Angela I am honouring your wishes not to put Leah up, Angela, please take a seat.

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TINFOIL REMINDER:
T’kor was in d/r for MOST of the Tucker, Kimo, Rubina talk last night.
If anyone is conspiratorial, you have to wonder which way d/r was pushing T’kor to go with the renom.
ONLY for the conspiratorial.
It was roughly a 2 or 3 am d/r call that lasted an hour.
She woke up with mixed feelings…. even more mixed than she usually has.

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The show edit last night had Leah inclusion for the first time in 2 weeks.
That implies Leah renom.
I just would prefer to see 2 nopes on the block… Angela and Tucker.
I have made no secret of my nopes.

Uncle Sam

With Angela on the block now. Who do you think goes this week?

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hmmm.
post AI… if Tucker is on the block and they don’t take him out they are stupid.
Post AI… if Angela is on the block vs. Makensy… how much crazybagofcatslady do you want to live with?

I never considered who leaves. ALL i kept seeing (because i wanted to see it) was both my nopes on nom chairs post veto.
They have a 2 hour on Wednesday. The edit will tell us A LOT. special note will be how they d/r this last 24 hours.

Brinkswhat

Tucker is playing Rubina like a fiddle. He does have a f2 with Angela and Joseph and Kimo and he tried to make one with Cam. Everybody knows that Angela tells info when she panics. Why would she make that up against Tucker. Rubina is a 35 year old woman that talks trash on a 22 year old MacKenzie, about being young and immature BUT, she’s the one running around cackling and over exaggerating her bursts of laughter. Always half dressed and acting like a 17 year old high school teenager. She’s the prime example of an older woman not wanting to grow up. Why is okay to have a showmance in the house now? Tucker, T’Kor, Kimo and Rubina talked crap about it when Angela put out the rumor about Matt and MacKenzie, but now it’s not a problem? Matt and MacKenzie were no where near the level of Tucker and Rubina. T’Kor thinks she’s smart but she’s playing a jury member’s game if she don’t put Rubina up and break up that showmance. Rubina will not go against Tucker for T’Kor.